GDT - Canucks @ Sabres - Nov. 15, 2022 - 7:00 PM (EST) - MSG and WGR

[Thorner]

Just now, Contempt said:

No offense but I don't pay that close of attention to remember what you said that long ago.

You should. I learn a lot reading his posts. 

1 minute ago, Porous Five Hole said:

The Sabres got beat by Spencer freaking Martin.  A veteran of 15 NHL games and who played poorly. 
 

Good grief.  

In his defence, Spency has been good of late 

[Refuting]

1 minute ago, Porous Five Hole said:

The Sabres got beat by Spencer freaking Martin.  A veteran of 15 NHL games and who played poorly. 
 

 

They refuse to play defense 

[Porous Five Hole]

Torts called a guy out for poor play in this young season.
 

Meatballs? Nothin…

[SwampD]

1 minute ago, Contempt said:

No offense but I don't pay that close of attention to remember what you said that long ago.

Not just me, everyone.

You honestly don’t remember discussions about how our good play at the end of last year was only because it was in garbage time of the season, after we were eliminated?

3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

You should. I learn a lot reading his posts. 

In his defence, Spency has been good of late 

 

😂

[Believer]

I don’t care what Granato says post game or pregame tomorrow… Don’t tell me this team isn’t hanging its collective head after six straight losses… Losing becomes a mental disease after it happens too often… There are too many examples in pro sports… Like I posted a week ago after the third straight loss… Our kids risk learning to fail instead of learning to succeed… Send JJ, Quinn, Krebs down to Rochester for a month to rediscover winning again… Let’s play with a few Amerks… At least they will play hungry… We have nothing to risk but our losing streak

[SwampD]

Boosh and Pilut was a pretty horrible pairing. We’re they ever split up? I missed most of the third.

The kids really look like kids. I’m not sure if they realize how much harder they have to mean their passes. That’s actually true of everyone on the team, but especially with the young’n’s. They either whiff on them or don’t get them through. It’s kinda frustrating. 

[Porous Five Hole]

Zero points out of a four game home stand. 

[Refuting]

At least they're scoring and getting a ton of shots on net.

They need a defensive specialist coach. You would think that scoring goals would be harder than preventing them 

[Thorner]

1 hour ago, Thorny said:

We CAN win this

eman comes in as usual to dish out the reactions post game and I see he’s reacted to one of mine so I eagerly check and boom.I get saddled with a laughing emoji for this. 

Simply crushing tbh

[Scottysabres]

Well, I'll give them this, they're consistent. They're either consistently competitive in games or consistently shitting the bed in games.

Edited November 16, 2022 by Scottysabres

[Porous Five Hole]

2 minutes ago, Toilet_Mop said:

At least they're scoring and getting a ton of shots on net.

They need a defensive specialist coach. You would think that scoring goals would be harder than preventing them 

Dan Girardi should be able to be that guy. Very frustrating. 
 

Also, it is time to split up Dahlin & Power. The ice isn’t tilted enough to warrant them playing together. 

[Believer]

1 minute ago, Porous Five Hole said:

Zero points out of a four game home stand. 

Unbelievable… Unacceptable… Adams and Granato can only sell their Development Rap to the team for so long… They already are losing the fans… They risk losing the team… Adams needs to make some moves

[HumanSlinky39]

Bottom line, we're icing 2-3 defensemen (Bryson/Pilut/Clague) who have no business being on an NHL roster. They're traffic cones and don't move the needle offensively to offset it.

Joker looked bad tonight, but he's been at least serviceable in the past. Hopefully he just needs to shake off some rust after missing a few weeks.

Edited November 16, 2022 by HumanSlinky39

[LGR4GM]

If Adams doesn't get another nhl defender and soon, we can all start looking at the draft. Pilut, Bryson, Fitz are 7/8 defenders. Move on while you can still salvage the season. 

[Refuting]

Just now, Porous Five Hole said:

Dan Girardi should be able to be that guy. Very frustrating. 
 

Also, it is time to split up Dahlin & Power. The ice isn’t tilted enough to warrant them playing together. 

How does Girardi still have a job then? Defense is EASILY the biggest problem. Has been for all these years. 

I would tell every defenseman that's not named Dahlin that they can't pinch. Ever. If you pinch you're benched. Next guy that gives up an odd man rush is traded to Anaheim 

[rickshaw]

Came out flat. Also noticed Dahlin wasn’t passing as crisp as he normally does and Tage was just a little off tonight. Bobbled the puck quite a bit. Skinner could’ve had 4 easily. Little things cost ya in this league. Shouldn’t be losing to the Canucks. 

[eman]

47 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

Not even Thanksgiving yet, and I'm really not interested in watching this team anymore. KA is useless. I'm starting to think DG is as well. 

They’ll be done by US Thanksgiving again. I thought it would take much longer this season but nope, different cast of characters and the same result. Barry Trotz is out there- just sayin’!

[Marvin]

2 minutes ago, Toilet_Mop said:

How does Girardi still have a job then? Defense is EASILY the biggest problem. Has been for all these years. 

I would tell every defenseman that's not named Dahlin that they can't pinch. Ever. If you pinch you're benched. Next guy that gives up an odd man rush is traded to Anaheim 

They have been emphasising not being afraid to make mistakes.  They also have been emphasising pushing the game up ice.  They do not seem to emphasise defencive structure.

[Porous Five Hole]

4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

If Adams doesn't get another nhl defender and soon, we can all start looking at the draft. Pilut, Bryson, Fitz are 7/8 defenders. Move on while you can still salvage the season. 

Pilut was especially noticeably bad.  I hoped he was an NHL D, but he is not.  

[HumanSlinky39]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

If Adams doesn't get another nhl defender and soon, we can all start looking at the draft. Pilut, Bryson, Fitz are 7/8 defenders. Move on while you can still salvage the season. 

With all of the capital we have, there's no excuse for not offering some up to bring in another top-4 defensemen. I didn't bellyache standing relatively pat in the offseason because of the momentum built in March/April & because he probably wanted to see what some of these guys can do. But, once the breakdowns occur like this, you have to address them...especially when you have the assets to do so. 'Muel being out hurts because I think he's probably our best straight-up defender, but even when he comes back, you're still icing Bryson who is just not a guy who should be seeing regular NHL minutes. Go get a good veteran to play 19-22 minutes a night.

[Digger]

I still think there's a real psychological problem with this team when they go into these losing streaks.  When the pressure is off they play much better.  Invest in additional Sport Psychologists.  Another tough November so far.

[Refuting]

Just now, Marvin said:

They have been emphasising not being afraid to make mistakes.  They also have been emphasising pushing the game up ice.  They do not seem to emphasise defencive structure.

Why even have defenseman? Just have a team of forwards. Who cares about the Goalie he will save everything.

Whoever is in charge of defense should canned immediately 

[Weave]

So….. being on the west coast was good today, eh?  Seems I missed a mess judging by the post game reaction.

Sigh…… too many kids.  Not enough vets.  Seems like that should have been obvious in training camp.

[Thorner]

20 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

If Adams doesn't get another nhl defender and soon, we can all start looking at the draft. Pilut, Bryson, Fitz are 7/8 defenders. Move on while you can still salvage the season. 

Ayup.

This doesn’t need to be about making a big swap to find the wins we need to be a playoff team - I’m pretty sure a necessary, reasonable move for an area of need that helps us win A LITTLE MORE would be pretty beneficial to the growth of this team

The main objective can still be growth, but you need to help them. Help your team, Adams. There’s no rule that says they can’t learn while winning. Who knows, maybe they’ll actually, gasp, learn a little *more* by winning, a little more. 

Learn how to win, a little. I’d say that’s useful development 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Thorny

[eman]

21 minutes ago, Thorny said:

eman comes in as usual to dish out the reactions post game and I see he’s reacted to one of mine so I eagerly check and boom.I get saddled with a laughing emoji for this. 

Simply crushing tbh

Sorry Thorny, but my honest opinion is that this team is spinning it’s wheels. Do they look better than the disasters of the past decade? Perhaps. But what does it matter? Other teams in the division have also improved and we’re seeing another instant replay of seasons past. Done by US Thanksgiving again. I really thought it would take until about late February at the earliest for this season. Nope. I wish I shared your optimism. They have beaten it out of me now.