Buffalonill Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 It sounds like there's not a (number 1 )and they be rotating comrie/anderson per Granato Quote
Curt Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: It sounds like there's not a (number 1 )and they be rotating comrie/anderson per Granato I feel like that is what most people expected, at least early in the season, and it was just you who was insisting that Anderson would be the clear starter and Comrie the clear backup. 1 1 Quote
WhenWillItEnd66 Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 Totally Ok with a rotation and lets see if Comrie does good with a NHL team in front of him. 2 Quote
Doohicksie Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 I'm sure Granato is going to adjust as things work themselves out. I feel pretty confident that at some point during the season that will involve a callup of Luukkonen. 1 Quote
matter2003 Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) I hope not...Anderson had some of the worst metrics in the NHL last year....he was 53rd out of 74 goalies with a minimum of 10 games played in terms of goals saved above expected per 60 minutes at -0.28 goals. In other words, Anderson costs the Sabres an extra goal basically every 4 games he plays versus what he should allow. Comrie on the other hand ranked 2nd in the NHL to only Shesterkin of the Rangers, with a goals saved above expected per 60 minutes of 0.603, meaning every 5 periods, he saves an extra goal for your team that normally would be expected to have scored. In other words, there is a -0.883 per 60 minutes differential between Anderson and Comrie which should make it very clear who the goalie should be for this team. UPL only played in 9 games, but he ranked 37th, not great but clearly better than Anderson at -0.048, which is almost neutral. UPL's major issue is rebound control which he is among the worst in the NHL at coming in at 4th worst in the NHL out of 76 qualifiers with at least 9 games played. He actually had the lowest expected rebounds per save last year in the NHL, but gave up the 24th most rebounds per save. Edited October 11, 2022 by matter2003 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, matter2003 said: I hope not...Anderson had some of the worst metrics in the NHL last year....he was 53rd out of 74 goalies with a minimum of 10 games played in terms of goals saved above expected per 60 minutes at -0.28 goals. In other words, Anderson costs the Sabres an extra goal basically every 4 games he plays versus what he should allow. Comrie on the other hand ranked 2nd in the NHL to only Shesterkin of the Rangers, with a goals saved above expected per 60 minutes of 0.603, meaning every 5 periods, he saves an extra goal for your team that normally would be expected to have scored. In other words, there is a -0.883 per 60 minutes differential between Anderson and Comrie which should make it very clear who the goalie should be for this team. On the other hand, let's see who brings home the wins. If Andy allows 7 goals but the Sabres score 8, I'm fine with that, and if Comrie only allows 2 but the Sabres only score one with him, I'd rather see Andy. (Yes, stupid straw man but my point is I want the team to win.) 1 Quote
msw2112 Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 I think it's fine to rotate and see how it plays out. Obviously, the hope is that Comrie will emerge as the better goalie and become the #1, but there isn't enough sample size yet to know for sure. They know what they have in Anderson. He can provide some quality minutes and veteran leadership, but at this point in his career, he isn't going to be stealing any games for the Sabres. I belive that UPL will work his way into the mix. Despite his poor play in the AHL, when he's been healthy and given the opportunity to play in the NHL, he's been pretty good. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 …. Or are they circling the drain? 3 Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 If comrie is good enough he will take the number 1 position, If not I can see UPL being called up mid season. 1 Quote
MBD Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 Rotating as in Anderson gets 1 minute, Comrie gets the other 59? Quote
Thorner Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Huckleberry said: If comrie is good enough he will take the number 1 position, If not I can see UPL being called up mid season. If Comrie isn’t good, Adams’ ability to functionally address the goaltending position becomes a full-blown issue Edited October 11, 2022 by Thorny 2 Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 13 minutes ago, Thorny said: If Comrie isn’t good, Adams’ ability to functionally address the goaltending position become a full-blown issue Not for me, well its an issue for any team in the league with bad goaltending. And there are plenty , the market for goalies is dry and have to gamble on AHL goalies or back up goalies to fil the gaps. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Not for me, well its an issue for any team in the league with bad goaltending. And there are plenty , the market for goalies is dry and have to gamble on AHL goalies or back up goalies to fil the gaps. “What can Adams even do?!” Hard no on that line of thinking. 3 seasons is enough time for a guy who has one of only 32 coveted positions to at least be *evaluated* on his inability to address a position, SHOULD Comrie not pan out. This isn’t a “fire Adams if Comrie sucks!” post. It’s a, “surely we can ask our GM to adequately address a gaping hole on the roster (partially of his own making) over the course of 3 years” post, and demand for better should that arise. A simple acknowledgment of his failure in that regard rather a statement like yours that implies he’d be blameless in the matter and cannot be held to a better standard. Edited October 11, 2022 by Thorny 1 1 Quote
Curt Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 48 minutes ago, Thorny said: If Comrie isn’t good, Adams’ ability to functionally address the goaltending position becomes a full-blown issue 3 hours ago, Huckleberry said: If comrie is good enough he will take the number 1 position, If not I can see UPL being called up mid season. Define: Good enough Quote
Thorner Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Curt said: Define: Good enough League average starter Over a *majority* of the 82 games played. 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 50 + games played at least for a starter. 91 SV % 1 Quote
Curt Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 36 minutes ago, Thorny said: League average starter Over a *majority* of the 82 games played. 25 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: 50 + games played at least for a starter. 91 SV % League average sv% was 0.907 last season, so .910 seems like a fair threshold. 1 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Curt said: League average sv% was 0.907 last season, so .910 seems like a fair threshold. Looks like me and Finn see the desired production the same way, we just differ on the expectations on the GM in procuring that result. Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, Thorny said: Looks like me and Finn see the desired production the same way, we just differ on the expectations on the GM in procuring that result. Actually got my nick from this movie 🙂 1 1 Quote
Thorner Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Actually got my nick from this movie 🙂 Ahhh yes I’ve seen this. He flies a fighter jet at the end 2 Quote
Taro T Posted October 11, 2022 Report Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Thorny said: Ahhh yes I’ve seen this. He flies a fighter jet at the end You sure? Thought he dies in a Parisian tub at the end after singing about Skeet Surfing and then turning a house into a giant Jiffy Pop. 😉 1 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2022 Report Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Huckleberry said: Actually got my nick from this movie 🙂 Quote
Huckleberry Posted October 12, 2022 Report Posted October 12, 2022 52 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Man I love that movie, especially when they start talking latin. 1 1 Quote
Taro T Posted October 12, 2022 Report Posted October 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Huckleberry said: Man I love that movie, especially when they start talking latin. Waaaaaaay better than the other Wyatt Earp themed movie that came out around then. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted October 12, 2022 Report Posted October 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Thorny said: If Comrie isn’t good, Adams’ ability to functionally address the goaltending position becomes a full-blown issue "becomes"? Quote
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