Doohicksie Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 Do you think Shannon reads Sabrespace? Or is this stuff really that universal? Quote
Eleven Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 7:53 PM, Thorny said: The guy who berated the team and every member of this board on his way out lol 20 hours ago, Broken Ankles said: He did it more than just on his way out. Delta Bravo in the first degree. 20 hours ago, Zamboni said: Agree. And I’m sorry but if you are a fan of a player more than a fan of the team …. Seeeee ya. No skin off my ear lobes. Are you all talking about the guy who was a Canes fan? Quote
Taro T Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Eleven said: Are you all talking about the guy who was a Canes fan? They're talking about the guy who introduced Phat Pannies to the board. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 Owen Power is a good hockey player, and in time he may turn out to be the best (maybe) but at the moment it is looking like we blew the draft. 1 Quote
Curt Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 5 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Owen Power is a good hockey player, and in time he may turn out to be the best (maybe) but at the moment it is looking like we blew the draft. I really really like Beniers. I wanted the Sabres to draft him. I think he will cool down a bit though. He is shooting an unsustainable 23%, and the Kraken actually get outshot when he is on the ice. He is just on a heater right now, with 12 pts in the past 6 games. Before that he went 6 games without recording a point. Great player, but so is Power. Jury is still out. 1 Quote
shrader Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 A 19 year old defenseman who is eating up minutes and looks like he’ll be a guy who can be out there 30 minutes when needed and they blew the draft? Teenagers and the verdict is already in. 🙄 3 1 3 Quote
Zamboni Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) The age old grass is greener effect. I call shenanigans. There is a phenomenon as crazy as it might sound… Where both teams got good players. And no one “won the draft“. I just find that kind of conversation (at times) intellectually dishonest when someone tries to claim another team won/blew the draft. Edited December 3, 2022 by Zamboni 2 Quote
inkman Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 8 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Owen Power is a good hockey player, and in time he may turn out to be the best (maybe) but at the moment it is looking like we blew the draft. Life doesn’t need to be this miserable 2 Quote
Curt Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, shrader said: A 19 year old defenseman who is eating up minutes and looks like he’ll be a guy who can be out there 30 minutes when needed and they blew the draft? Teenagers and the verdict is already in. 🙄 Power is 20, but your point stands. Quote
LTS Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 10 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Owen Power is a good hockey player, and in time he may turn out to be the best (maybe) but at the moment it is looking like we blew the draft. Not a chance... the whole board is looking for Buffalo to have improved defense and you are on here saying the Sabres blew the draft. It's just trying to get a rise out of people. Do you really think Beniers would have been the better draft pick? Like drafting Power is "blowing" the draft. Even if Beniers was slightly better, which he's not, it would not be "blowing" the draft. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, LTS said: Not a chance... the whole board is looking for Buffalo to have improved defense and you are on here saying the Sabres blew the draft. It's just trying to get a rise out of people. Do you really think Beniers would have been the better draft pick? Like drafting Power is "blowing" the draft. Even if Beniers was slightly better, which he's not, it would not be "blowing" the draft. Personally would've preferred Beniers, but they didn't go wrong at all w/ Power. They're shaping up to be able to consistently have a #1 D-man on the ice for 50 minutes/ game in a couple of years. Except for a 1/2 season of Tallinder elevating his game, they never HAD a #1 D-man. They've been able to get #1 C's, they'd never had a #1 D prior to Dahlin. Now there's a great chance they'll have 2. That's not a "blown" draft at all. Quote
shrader Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Curt said: Power is 20, but your point stands. Ahhh crap, I knew it was coming soon. But hey, he was still 19 when Dahlin was out and he was up near 30 minutes. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 6 hours ago, shrader said: A 19 year old defenseman who is eating up minutes and looks like he’ll be a guy who can be out there 30 minutes when needed and they blew the draft? Teenagers and the verdict is already in. 🙄 Not "blew the draft" but didn't draft the best player. That's all. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 5 hours ago, inkman said: Life doesn’t need to be this miserable I'm not miserable at all. I'm really enjoying Kraken games. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, LTS said: Not a chance... the whole board is looking for Buffalo to have improved defense and you are on here saying the Sabres blew the draft. It's just trying to get a rise out of people. Do you really think Beniers would have been the better draft pick? Like drafting Power is "blowing" the draft. Even if Beniers was slightly better, which he's not, it would not be "blowing" the draft. "blew" was too strong a word, that's fair. My point is simply that despite having the #1 pick, we may have not drafted the #1 player. Power may still be that guy, but right now Beniers is way ahead. We have a history of doing that. Not getting the best guy at the time and sometimes really missing badly like Nylander. Quote
inkman Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 2 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: I'm not miserable at all. I'm really enjoying Kraken games. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 2 hours ago, inkman said: 1 Quote
sweetlou Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Brawndo said: Myers cleared waivers Not sure why KA wouldn't give this guy a shot, he claimed Jost when we really didn't need any more forwards. Quote
LTS Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 9 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: "blew" was too strong a word, that's fair. My point is simply that despite having the #1 pick, we may have not drafted the #1 player. Power may still be that guy, but right now Beniers is way ahead. We have a history of doing that. Not getting the best guy at the time and sometimes really missing badly like Nylander. Meh. There's now and then there's later. I am quite comfortable that Power has a much better NHL career in the end. Put Beniers on the Sabres and what is he doing right now? No way he's having the same output as he's having in Seattle. It's a very different setting. There are a lot of teams who never get the best guy and a lot of teams who miss badly. The Sabres are not the exception there. But not a chance do I think Beniers is the best player in that draft... Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, LTS said: Meh. There's now and then there's later. I am quite comfortable that Power has a much better NHL career in the end. Put Beniers on the Sabres and what is he doing right now? No way he's having the same output as he's having in Seattle. It's a very different setting. There are a lot of teams who never get the best guy and a lot of teams who miss badly. The Sabres are not the exception there. But not a chance do I think Beniers is the best player in that draft... So do you think it's Power? Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 Myers waived by Tampa. Not spectacular but I think also an upgrade over some of what we have but whatever, KA will do nothing. Quote
thewookie1 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Myers waived by Tampa. Not spectacular but I think also an upgrade over some of what we have but whatever, KA will do nothing. To be honest I don't really think he was an upgrade; there's a reason he's been bounced around and was considered a pure cap circumvent asset based on his buyout. Quote
pi2000 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 19 hours ago, Taro T said: Personally would've preferred Beniers, but they didn't go wrong at all w/ Power. They're shaping up to be able to consistently have a #1 D-man on the ice for 50 minutes/ game in a couple of years. Except for a 1/2 season of Tallinder elevating his game, they never HAD a #1 D-man. They've been able to get #1 C's, they'd never had a #1 D prior to Dahlin. Now there's a great chance they'll have 2. That's not a "blown" draft at all. Given the state of the Sabres I would not trade Power for Beniers straight up. Much more difficult to acquire defensemen than forwards. 1 Quote
kas23 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 How about each team got what they needed and it’s going to work out for both of them. Is that allowed? 1 1 Quote
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