Popular Post Brawndo Posted September 21, 2022 Popular Post Report Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) Edited September 21, 2022 by Brawndo 10 7 2 Quote
Porous Five Hole Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 I support this. I had a sneaking suspicion that he might move upstairs to a role of President of Hockey Ops at some point due to the complications with Kim’s health…and this extension doesn’t preclude that. But, to me it shows that KA wants to be the GM and I’m onboard. 2 Quote
Popular Post Pimlach Posted September 21, 2022 Popular Post Report Posted September 21, 2022 Well earned. Adams had to tear things down first, but he now appears to be moving things in a much better direction then his predecessors. Team play improved Coach selection improved Lots of new prospects added Better development plan for the prospects he inherited Culture improving We need this. Continuity and consistency. 9 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Well earned. Adams had to tear things down first, but he now appears to be moving things in a much better direction then his predecessors. Team play improved Coach selection improved Lots of new prospects added Better development plan for the prospects he inherited Culture improving We need this. Continuity and consistency. Well said. Forton’s tearful remarks about Adams show how far he has brought this organization. I think the next few years will finally be very fruitful. 1 1 Quote
JujuFish Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 Love to see it. This has been the most fun Sabres team to watch since the Regier era. Being a home town boy is just icing on the cake. 2 Quote
Mustache of God Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 What's the term and money? Quote
Taro T Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 31 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Personally always want the GM under contract for at least 2 more years than the current one & the coach to be under contract for at least 1 more year than the current season. Want to make sure they aren't thinking about their next stop while they should be fully focused on making things better here & now. (Butler tanking his last draft for the Bills still chafes.) Quote
Zamboni Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 Well I guess I’ll have to add this to the everything Kevyn Adams has done as a GM thread… Kevyn Adams has signed Kevyn Adams 2 4 1 Quote
JustOneParade Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Taro T said: Personally always want the GM under contract for at least 2 more years than the current one & the coach to be under contract for at least 1 more year than the current season. Want to make sure they aren't thinking about their next stop while they should be fully focused on making things better here & now. (Butler tanking his last draft for the Bills still chafes.) Yes. And a GM with one year left and feeling his job may be in jeopardy would likely make decisions to increase his chances for that one season at the expense of sub-optimizing plans for years 2 and beyond. (Ex., trade high end prospects for immediate improvement). Edited September 21, 2022 by JustOneParade omitted a number 5 Quote
Curt Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mustache of God said: What's the term and money? These figures are not generally publicly released. Could leak out at some point though. 1 Quote
Brawndo Posted September 21, 2022 Author Report Posted September 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Taro T said: Personally always want the GM under contract for at least 2 more years than the current one & the coach to be under contract for at least 1 more year than the current season. Want to make sure they aren't thinking about their next stop while they should be fully focused on making things better here & now. (Butler tanking his last draft for the Bills still chafes.) 2 minutes ago, JustOneParade said: Yes. And a GM with one year left and feeling his job may be in jeopardy would likely make decisions to increase his chances for that one season at the expense of sub-optimizing plans for years and beyond. (Ex., trade high end prospects for immediate improvement). Case in point 2 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 As another poster stated, Fortin was all I needed to see that we are moving in the right direction. Losing has to weigh heavily on those who are super competitive and it looks like we're finally steering this ship in the right direction. Quote
nfreeman Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 I like it, not so much due to being convinced that KA is the right guy -- I think he is but until they start making playoff runs consistently I can't be sure -- but because it makes a statement about KA and the franchise, both internally and to the rest of the NHL. The statement is that ownership believes in KA and the direction of the franchise, and he's backing that belief with (presumably) significant cash, and as a result the franchise is going to be stable, professional and on an upward track. Now KA just needs to make it so. 1 4 Quote
Flashsabre Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I like it, not so much due to being convinced that KA is the right guy -- I think he is but until they start making playoff runs consistently I can't be sure -- but because it makes a statement about KA and the franchise, both internally and to the rest of the NHL. The statement is that ownership believes in KA and the direction of the franchise, and he's backing that belief with (presumably) significant cash, and as a result the franchise is going to be stable, professional and on an upward track. Now KA just needs to make it so. I think Pegula would love the Steelers model. Just keep the right people in place forever and be competitive all the time. The Bills are there, hopefully the Sabres are getting there. 6 Quote
Taro T Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Premature How so? Pretty sure he was starting his last year under contract (it was a 3 year deal originally, right?). You going to wait until after the season and he's a free agent to negotiate with him? There is no downside to this other than it costing the Pegulas more money should he not be able to continue the rebuild. Don't care about them wasting a few bucks if in fact they did. Jury's out on that but expect they didn't. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 36 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Premature Was Josh Allen extended too soon? 1 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) @Taro T The Sabres best season under TM 81 pts in 82 games. Fired after one more season The Sabres best season under Jbot 68 pts in 69 games. Fired after the season The Sabres best season under KA 75 pts in 82 games. Given an extention. Edited September 21, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Was Josh Allen extended too soon? Seriously? Didn't Josh lead the Bills to multiple playoff appearances before being extended? How many playoff appearances has KA lead us to? Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: @Taro T The Sabres best season under TM 81 pts in 82 games. Fired after one more season The Sabres best season under Jbot 68 pts in 69 games. Fired after the season The Sabres best season under KA 75 pts in 82 games. Given an extention. You're right. Kevyn Adams has been exactly the same as Tim Murray and Jason Botterill. The numbers don't lie. Thanks for digging that nugget up. Edited September 21, 2022 by PromoTheRobot 4 Quote
Taro T Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: @Taro T The Sabres best season under TM 81 pts in 82 games. Fired after one more season The Sabres best season under Jbot 68 pts in 69 games. Fired after the season The Sabres best season under KA 75 pts in 82 games. Given an extention. So you want him fired too because your boy Botterill got canned after refusing to restructure the scouting department? You didn't answer the question of are you fine having Adams become a free agent at the end of this season & THEN negotiating a new deal with him? Because, either he gets a new deal now or after he holds all the cards should the Pegulas want to re-sign him. Quote
Flashsabre Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: @Taro T The Sabres best season under TM 81 pts in 82 games. Fired after one more season The Sabres best season under Jbot 68 pts in 69 games. Fired after the season The Sabres best season under KA 75 pts in 82 games. Given an extention. Your point makes no sense. These guys didn’t all start at the same point and it isn’t just about numbers it is about building and running an organization the right way. Murray was fired because he was an a&&hole on top of not being great at his job. Botts made bad hires and didn’t build the organization. Adams walked into an awful situation with no experience and has made chicken salad so far out of chicken sh$t. The Pegulas trust him and want him around. 2 2 1 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2022 Report Posted September 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: You're right. Kevyn Adams has been exactly the same as Tim Murray and Jason Botterill. The numbers don't lie. Thanks for digging that nugget up. Ok genius what will you say if the Athletic prediction comes true, the goaltending fails again for the 3rd time under KA and the team is battling Mon for last in the Atlantic? 3 Quote
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