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RochesterExpat Third Liner

RochesterExpat

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4 hours ago, Thorny said:

Does 100 mean less than it used to? Or just an anomaly? 

Point inflation exists. The east was essentially class warfare last season between the contenders and the rebuilders. Hence why the point disparity was so significant.

Unfortunately, this point consolidation is a natural evolution of the draft and draft lottery. If you are going to miss the playoffs or be a fringe team at best, you’re better off just terribly underperforming. Why play for a wild card spot when you can get a higher draft pick instead? None of the wildcard teams made it out of the first round last season, but as a result of playing in the playoffs, they removed themselves from the draft lottery. Since you can only jump 10 spots now, it’s best to finish inside 11th place.

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MattPie All Star

MattPie

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13 hours ago, Thorny said:

Oh ya, with those 4 extra wins they’d be sitting at 100, I don’t think a team has ever missed with that many, no?

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13 teams had 100 points last year?! 41% of the league. Every playoff seed in the East?

Does 100 mean less than it used to? Or just an anomaly? 

Yeah, there was such a big gap between #8 and #9, the top of the east were siphoning points from the hapless bottom half more than most years. In most years, the 7-8 teams would be battling the 9-10 teams down to the last week.

8 hours ago, RochesterExpat said:

Point inflation exists. The east was essentially class warfare last season between the contenders and the rebuilders. Hence why the point disparity was so significant.

Unfortunately, this point consolidation is a natural evolution of the draft and draft lottery. If you are going to miss the playoffs or be a fringe team at best, you’re better off just terribly underperforming. Why play for a wild card spot when you can get a higher draft pick instead? None of the wildcard teams made it out of the first round last season, but as a result of playing in the playoffs, they removed themselves from the draft lottery. Since you can only jump 10 spots now, it’s best to finish inside 11th place.

1st para: I think it's just the way it rolls. I remember a few years in the 90s or 2000s where there was a *clear* line between the playoff teams and not in the west. One year there were 7 good teams in the west, and then #8 had 88 points. It happens.

2nd: I seriously doubt any team is going to tank from #9 to try to get to #11 to gain a couple % chance. No owner is going to approve "Well, we may have a chance to get at least 2 more home games and have people in the seats right down to the wire. But if we lose a bunch of games, we can go from 0.8% to 2.6% of moving way up in the draft!"

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RochesterExpat Third Liner

RochesterExpat

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2 hours ago, MattPie said:

2nd: I seriously doubt any team is going to tank from #9 to try to get to #11 to gain a couple % chance. No owner is going to approve "Well, we may have a chance to get at least 2 more home games and have people in the seats right down to the wire. But if we lose a bunch of games, we can go from 0.8% to 2.6% of moving way up in the draft!"

Sorry, I I didn't mean to suggest teams were going to play it like that, just that it's mathematically better to miss the playoffs and be under 11th than it is it just barely miss (as happened to Vegas and Vancouver). That was poorly written.

My point was more that we now see teams that are on the fringe of the playoffs turning into sellers and fewer fringe teams turning into buyers (unless the GM feels his job is in jeopardy). That helps lead to point consolidation. 

Thorner Hall of Famer

Thorner

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19 hours ago, RochesterExpat said:

Point inflation exists. The east was essentially class warfare last season between the contenders and the rebuilders. Hence why the point disparity was so significant.

Unfortunately, this point consolidation is a natural evolution of the draft and draft lottery. If you are going to miss the playoffs or be a fringe team at best, you’re better off just terribly underperforming. Why play for a wild card spot when you can get a higher draft pick instead? None of the wildcard teams made it out of the first round last season, but as a result of playing in the playoffs, they removed themselves from the draft lottery. Since you can only jump 10 spots now, it’s best to finish inside 11th place.

The bolded is exceptionally grim and I can’t say I agree..

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LGR4GM Hall of Famer

LGR4GM

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On 9/14/2022 at 9:07 AM, LGR4GM said:

I will bet you money the Sabres are not a bottom 5 team in the NHL. 

 

On 9/14/2022 at 8:14 PM, Buffalonill said:

How much you want to do ? With a AV bet ? 

 

On 9/14/2022 at 8:26 PM, LGR4GM said:

100 bucks the Sabres do not finish in the bottom 5. So 28-32

 

On 9/14/2022 at 9:24 PM, Buffalonill said:

Thats fine with me 

Would starting a club just for Bets work? How do ppl feel about it?

On 9/13/2022 at 9:50 PM, Buffalonill said:

Bookmark it ..

bottom 5 in the league 

Sorry, I missed the start of this. Just trying to keep it all together and I do hope we remember at the end of the year, win or lose

PromoTheRobot All Star

PromoTheRobot

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24 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

 

 

Would starting a club just for Bets work? How do ppl feel about it?

Sorry, I missed the start of this. Just trying to keep it all together and I do hope we remember at the end of the year, win or lose

Hey I wanted in on this!

So will we hold @Buffalonillto his bet? I think he's not feeling real confident right now.  😂

FYI the odds for Sabres making the playoffs fell to +300 from +600 at the start of the season 

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Thorner Hall of Famer

Thorner

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On 11/2/2022 at 8:17 AM, LGR4GM said:

 

 

 

Would starting a club just for Bets work? How do ppl feel about it?

Sorry, I missed the start of this. Just trying to keep it all together and I do hope we remember at the end of the year, win or lose

Calm down, Aaron Paul 

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But yes 

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NO idea if anyone gets that reference
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JohnC First Liner

JohnC

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6 minutes ago, SwampD said:

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Is this guy checking his dip stick? If he came up to you and offered to shake your hand would you be sociable enough to give him a manly grasp? 

JohnC First Liner

JohnC

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On 9/21/2022 at 12:53 PM, nfreeman said:

I'll say it:  if they get good goaltending out of Comrie, Anderson and UPL, and if TT stays healthy, they are going to get 95+ points and make the playoffs.

You are getting carried away. Maybe 85 pts is attainable but 95 + points and the playoffs is out of reach. 

SwampD Hall of Famer

SwampD

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2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

You are getting carried away. Maybe 85 pts is attainable but 95 + points and the playoffs is out of reach. 

That was from September.

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JohnC First Liner

JohnC

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1 minute ago, SwampD said:

That was from September.

That makes more sense. I thought he was recently posting and was inebriated when he made that prediction. I realize that he is more sober than I originally thought. 

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