Billssabres33 Posted July 29, 2022 Report Posted July 29, 2022 Like all of us, I am watching what happens on the open market and I just saw Klingberg sign with the Ducks for 7mm 1 season. I know that Kevyn is focusing on home grown and long term results. But should he sprinkle in signings like this, or Kadri on a short-term deal or others especially with all this cap room to see if he can catch lightning in a bottle? Culture is king, but taking a chance here and there might make some sense… Quote
Pimlach Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 I don’t see him making those kinds of signings until we become playoff team. Then you add proven performers to step up in the playoffs. Right now the big free agents add a premium to sign with, us and we have lots of homegrown talent to pay soon. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, Pimlach said: we have lots of homegrown talent to pay soon. But not this year. The Ducks signed him for one season. 3 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 I would have liked to see Kevyn sign Klingberg for what the Ducks did but we don't know if KA tried to sign him or if he was interested in playing in Buffalo. 2 1 Quote
Andrew Amerk Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 I’d still love to see them sign PK. I think he would be great for the young D, as well as the locker room. 1 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 Klingberg is ristolainen he would drive you nuts 1 2 Quote
Taro T Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 56 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said: I’d still love to see them sign PK. I think he would be great for the young D, as well as the locker room. Who does he bump out of the lineup? Dahlin - Samuelsson was the best pairing in at least 4 years & likely 14. Don't see that breaking up. Which bumps either Lyubushkin or Jokiharju out of the lineup. Bryson's the obvious guy to bump, but which of those 3 bottom 4 RHD slide to their off side to are that happen? 2 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 Ducks basically paid 7 million for somebody's high draft choice (when they deal him at the deadline). Bet they do better than we did with Taylor Hall too. Quote
Billssabres33 Posted July 30, 2022 Author Report Posted July 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Pimlach said: I don’t see him making those kinds of signings until we become playoff team. Then you add proven performers to step up in the playoffs. Right now the big free agents add a premium to sign with, us and we have lots of homegrown talent to pay soon. I hear what you are saying, but it might be worth it to take a flier or 2 every year because it’s not like this is a precise formula…I see what he is trying to do but it may never work out. Should he take a swing in the short run, especially when he has so much cap room? Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 4 hours ago, PerreaultForever said: Ducks basically paid 7 million for somebody's high draft choice (when they deal him at the deadline). Bet they do better than we did with Taylor Hall too. Depends on if he has a NMC or NTC 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 6 hours ago, Buffalonill said: Klingberg is ristolainen he would drive you nuts Yup. With Dahlin and Power, so we really need an offense only defender? If you brought him in to play with Power, Power would spend all game defending. Not interested and I doubt he was interested in us. Just now, thewookie1 said: Depends on if he has a NMC or NTC He has a 10 team ntc that kicks in January 1st. Before that is a full ntc. 5 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Billssabres33 said: Like all of us, I am watching what happens on the open market and I just saw Klingberg sign with the Ducks for 7mm 1 season. I know that Kevyn is focusing on home grown and long term results. But should he sprinkle in signings like this, or Kadri on a short-term deal or others especially with all this cap room to see if he can catch lightning in a bottle? Culture is king, but taking a chance here and there might make some sense… Kevyn should be very careful who and what he pursues in ufa. I think Kadri is interesting but only for about 2 years and idk if he'd sign up for that. There's also teams that aren't cap compliant that we could or should work with still. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Who do you think KA would jettison to bring in this alleged upgrade? Bryson who he just re-signed for two years? Asplund our best defensive who can chip in offensively? Girgensons one of the leaders of the new culture and one of our few physical forwards? Vinnie? Jokiharju? Who? I think he’s pretty much done except maybe a 7/8 D and even that is unlikely. He isn’t going to block JJP or Quinn and he seems content to allow DG to choose his centers from the 6 already on the roster. I think if he can upgrade Fitz or Pilut/Clague with a proven vet and get another asset he would consider it. Edited July 30, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 I think that KA is a little gun shy after the Hall fiasco. After that it has become clear that he is going to stay away from big UFA signings. I would have liked PK coming in here, but KA looked at it and brought in that former Leaf Dman with the long and complicated name to play the right side. He also addressed the goaler situation better than he did last season. This will be another year of growth for the young players and pushing hard to be in playoff contention to the end of the season. The following season we should see the Sabres push very hard for a playoff spot and that needs to be the goal. Just make it anyway you can for the young players to have that playoff feel and experience. 2 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: He also addressed the goaler situation better than he did last season. When he made a lousy situation worse. 1 4 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: When he made a lousy situation worse. He could have done more, but I don’t think that adding Comrie in place of Dell and Toker is worse. 3 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pimlach said: He could have done more, but I don’t think that adding Comrie in place of Dell and Toker is worse. I wasn’t talking about this season. When you lose Ullmark and replace with Anderson you have made your goaltending worse and that isn’t even debatable. Edited July 30, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I wasn’t talking about this season. When you lose Ullmark with Anderson you have made your goaltending worse and that isn’t even debatable. Skill wise certainly; but other factors like contract and influence need to be accounted for as well. In regards to availability, both suck. Quote
steveoath Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 8 hours ago, LGR4GM said: think Kadri is interesting but only for about 2 years and idk if he'd sign up for that Wonder if Lou has him signed already but hasn't announced it! Quote
PerreaultForever Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Pimlach said: He could have done more, but I don’t think that adding Comrie in place of Dell and Toker is worse. No, but it's worse than having Ullmark. Last year was just about the worst goaltending this team has ever had. This year isn't much better unless UPL breaks through somehow. Comrie might surprise me, but I doubt it. idk, my personal philosophy is great goalie first and foremost and build out from there. Sabres seem to have that in reverse. I do not believe we will be any good until we have better goaltending. Right now my hope is that we have Levi and he will develop quickly. otherwise, I just don't know. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Ullmark’s last year in Buffalo was a 2.63 with a .917. Anderson last season was a 3.12 with a .897. That’s making the goaltending worse, and unless Comrie comes through the goaltending is still worse. I agree with @PerreaultForever, without good goaltending, there is no way to become a contending squad and I don’t understand a rebuild philosophy that downgrades the goaltending in a vain hope that a prospect will save the day. Secure good goaltending and if the prospect wrestles away the starting job all the better. Edited July 30, 2022 by GASabresIUFAN 1 2 Quote
French Collection Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: No, but it's worse than having Ullmark. Last year was just about the worst goaltending this team has ever had. This year isn't much better unless UPL breaks through somehow. Comrie might surprise me, but I doubt it. idk, my personal philosophy is great goalie first and foremost and build out from there. Sabres seem to have that in reverse. I do not believe we will be any good until we have better goaltending. Right now my hope is that we have Levi and he will develop quickly. otherwise, I just don't know. Comrie may surprise a lot of people, in a good way. I am an optimist in this case, I don’t see any other option now, short of a trade. If he gives the Sabres average goaltending, that would be a success, considering his level of experience. I see Levi as the future #1 but it will be a while before he is ready. One more NCAA season and one in the AHL? Putting my optimist hat on again, he is the same age as Spencer Knight who is already an NHL backup and may take over for Bob soon. No one is saying Knight isn’t ready and he only played 11 games in the AHL. The pessimist devil on my shoulder says to watch for a Carter Hart scenario with Levi. Quote
grinreaper Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Ullmark’s last year in Buffalo was a 2.63 with a .917. Anderson last season was a 3.12 with a .897. That’s making the goaltending worse, and unless Comrie comes through the goaltending is still worse. I agree with @PerreaultForever, without good goaltending, there is no way to become a contending squad and I don’t understand a rebuild philosophy that downgrades the goaltending in a vain hope that a prospect will save the day. Secure good goaltending and if the prospect wrestles away the starting job all the better. Ullmark was almost perfect in shootouts which is not reflected in those stats. As bad as Lehner was, Ullmark was good. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 19 hours ago, Doohickie said: I would have liked to see Kevyn sign Klingberg for what the Ducks did but we don't know if KA tried to sign him or if he was interested in playing in Buffalo. Don't forget, they have to want to play in Buffalo. 2 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted July 30, 2022 Report Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, grinreaper said: Ullmark was almost perfect in shootouts which is not reflected in those stats. As bad as Lehner was, Ullmark was good. Lehner was unbelievably bad at shootouts. I could have been in goal and done equally well as him. https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1247438/amp Quote
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