Taro T Posted July 14, 2022 Report Posted July 14, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 11:45 PM, Brawndo said: Expand So much for him being a late summer signing. Oooops. (Where's the d'oh smiley when you really need it?) Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 8:06 PM, sweetlou said: I'f I'm KA I ask Chicago is Toews waves NTC for Buffalo. Let him come here to center fourth line, be a mentor for all the young centers, he can win face-offs and is good on pk. I would want Toews for Bishop, Bjork, and Buffalo 3rd in 2024. Chicago drops 4million in cap hit, and saves 1.2 million in real money. Chicago also still above the cap floor. Expand 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 11:45 PM, Brawndo said: Expand Good for him. Glad he's not here. He was okay for what he was but Iike to think we're done with what he was. 1 1 Quote
Curt Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 11:45 PM, Brawndo said: Expand 4P in 55 GP Kind of says it all. A checking forward with the production of a 3rd pair defensive defenseman. Seems like a good hardworking guy, but they can do better. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 12:08 AM, Doohickie said: Expand I’m with Sweet Lou on this one. I’d love to see him mentor the kids. think he was still was 60% at the dot love the leadership of KO and Tuch but they don’t have the pedigree that Toews has. 2 Quote
North Buffalo Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 4:49 PM, Crusader1969 said: I’m with Sweet Lou on this one. I’d love to see him mentor the kids. think he was still was 60% at the dot love the leadership of KO and Tuch but they don’t have the pedigree that Toews has. Expand Problem is Toews legs appear to be gone, could be recovery from injuries holding him back... could bounce back but he is getting older. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 4:49 PM, Crusader1969 said: I’m with Sweet Lou on this one. I’d love to see him mentor the kids. think he was still was 60% at the dot love the leadership of KO and Tuch but they don’t have the pedigree that Toews has. Expand On 7/15/2022 at 4:59 PM, North Buffalo said: Problem is Toews legs appear to be gone, could be recovery from injuries holding him back... could bounce back but he is getting older. Expand The bigger problem IMHO is they seem to be planning on riding a 4 line rotation of relatively even ice time (regardless of how the bottom 3 lines might get assembled) & at his current stage of his career, not sure Toews is still up for 12-14 minutes over 80 games. And it would have to be handled quite delicately if they decide to give him maintenance days. It could be done, and Adams and Granato could probably make it palatable; but it's a long way from team captain (of a multiple SC winner, btw) to healthy scratch overnight. Can see Kane here. Can't see Toews. 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 If his legs are that bad it's going to happen wherever he plays. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 4:59 PM, North Buffalo said: Problem is Toews legs appear to be gone, could be recovery from injuries holding him back... could bounce back but he is getting older. Expand It’s only 1 year left on the contract. His value as a mentor off the ice would be worth the $10mill Quote
Crusader1969 Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 5:33 PM, Taro T said: The bigger problem IMHO is they seem to be planning on riding a 4 line rotation of relatively even ice time (regardless of how the bottom 3 lines might get assembled) & at his current stage of his career, not sure Toews is still up for 12-14 minutes over 80 games. And it would have to be handled quite delicately if they decide to give him maintenance days. It could be done, and Adams and Granato could probably make it palatable; but it's a long way from team captain (of a multiple SC winner, btw) to healthy scratch overnight. Can see Kane here. Can't see Toews. Expand Load Management. bring them both in, if the price is right ie…don’t give up any roster players and noone drafted in the first two rounds, who are knocking on the door next years (lottery protected) 1st would be the main asset going back gives Chicago a clear path the Bedard Quote
Weave Posted July 15, 2022 Report Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/15/2022 at 6:10 PM, Crusader1969 said: Load Management. bring them both in, if the price is right ie…don’t give up any roster players and noone drafted in the first two rounds, who are knocking on the door next years (lottery protected) 1st would be the main asset going back gives Chicago a clear path the Bedard Expand And Buffalo a clearer path to drafting at 16+. 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 16, 2022 Report Posted July 16, 2022 Surprised Kessel is still out there. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 So no Kadri to Buffalo (which makes some of you happy) but there's a real opportunity here. Those contenders need cap space. Get an asset/player and pick(s) off them for next to nothing. Take on the money. It would be a solid plan B. 1 2 Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) I never keep my hopes up high for these teams looking to clear cap, usually its not a really good asset going the other way. Edited July 17, 2022 by Huckleberry Quote
PerreaultForever Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 4:12 AM, Huckleberry said: I never keep my hopes up high for these teams looking to clear cap, usually its not a really good asset going the other way. Expand Not a fan of Max Pacioretty? 🙂 Quote
Flashsabre Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 JT Compher for future considerations come on down Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 4:49 AM, PerreaultForever said: Not a fan of Max Pacioretty? 🙂 Expand Even if Adams inquired about Pacioretty, either the player nixed it or Vegas refused based on the optics. (Trading Patches and Coghlan to Buffalo for Future Considerations would certainly just get added to the Eichel trade in the league-wide consciousness) 1 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 3:18 AM, PerreaultForever said: So no Kadri to Buffalo (which makes some of you happy) but there's a real opportunity here. Those contenders need cap space. Get an asset/player and pick(s) off them for next to nothing. Take on the money. It would be a solid plan B. Expand He’s too old for a long term contract and very likely to return to being a 0.6 ppg. If Kadri were willing to take 2x10, I’d take him but that would be borderline idiotic for Kadri: Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 If someone wants to give us something nice to take a camp dumb (preferably on defense) I would be willing to do it. Then they can go get Kadri. Quote
Carmel Corn Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 If we do help another team's cap, I would hope we should get a much better return than what we got for Bishop's contract. Still not happy with the return from Dallas. Quote
aristocrat Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 I’d imagine rangers, pens, Vegas, and maybe Calgary think they can be contenders. What can we take from them that would be to our advantage? Quote
Taro T Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 12:58 PM, Carmel Corn said: If we do help another team's cap, I would hope we should get a much better return than what we got for Bishop's contract. Still not happy with the return from Dallas. Expand With Bishop being fully eligible for BF-LTIR, providing the rumors are correct that the team controlling his rights would only be out of pocket $750k thanks to insurance, all taking on Bishop's contract did was save the Stars $750k. Suppose they might've gotten a 6th for taking him, but doubt it. The Sabres got the 7th and near certainty that they'd be able to make a mid-season move without worrying about going under the cap floor. Which is a decent purchase for only $750k IMHO. 1 Quote
Ducky Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 I can see Kadri going to Calgary. It'd help appease the fans. Quote
LabattBlue Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 3:12 PM, Ducky said: I can see Kadri going to Calgary. It'd help appease the fans. Expand ….and maybe help to convince Tkachuk to stay. 😉 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 17, 2022 Report Posted July 17, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 3:12 PM, Ducky said: I can see Kadri going to Calgary. It'd help appease the fans. Expand Nah he nixed a trade between leafs and flames years ago, doubt he goes there. 1 1 Quote
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