Rd 7, Pick #211: Linus Sjodin (C)

[LGR4GM]

Once walked from point A to point B.

Edited July 8, 2022 by LGR4GM

[North Buffalo]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Once walked from point A to point B.

But did he breath?

[French Collection]

2002 born, not the greatest stats. He must be a defensive specialist C.

[Cheektorado]

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, French Collection said:

2002 born, not the greatest stats. He must be a defensive specialist C.

More like a player with really great hands.

idk, I don't really care but if I was going to draft an overager, I would have taken Logan Morrison here. kid had 39 points in 19 OHL playoff games and won't be 20 until later in July.

[nfreeman]

I wonder if Modo will return now?

[PotentPowerPlay21]

Welcome to Team Sweden Linus. 

[Pimlach]

Restocking our Lini. 

[Doohicksie]

Quote

Sjödin’s handling skills keep you watching. Not only does he possess the hand speed -- they are lightning quick -- and the creativity, but he prepares his moves well. Sjödin brings the puck at his hip as defenders rush him and waits for the precise moment where they commit to a pokecheck to toe-drag or use his skate blade to bounce the puck around them. -EliteProspects 2021 NHL Draft Guide

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/471614/linus-sjodin

I'm a bit disappointed.  With all the sons of past NHLers being drafted, I can't believe the Sabres didn't draft Haruto Tsujimoto.  I heard he's got a better shot and more speed than his dad.

[dudacek]

Here’s a surprise: Sjodin was named to this summer’s WJC team, along with Rosen.

 

[French Collection]

18 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Here’s a surprise: Sjodin was named to this summer’s WJC team, along with Rosen.

 

Nice, another guy to watch at this tournament.

I hope Rosen gets a bigger role than last December. He was a third liner and wasn’t a factor when I watched him.

[dudacek]

21 minutes ago, French Collection said:

Nice, another guy to watch at this tournament.

I hope Rosen gets a bigger role than last December. He was a third liner and wasn’t a factor when I watched him.

Looking at the roster, he should be a first-liner, but we shall see.

[DarthEbriate]

The Ben Bishop trade currently:

Future considerations = Ben Bishop ($4.9M cap hit/$3.5M salary; 1-yr: optional for LTIR) + 2022 DAL 7th (C Linus Sjodin)

[Curt]

12 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

The Ben Bishop trade currently:

Future considerations = Ben Bishop ($4.9M cap hit/$3.5M salary; 1-yr: optional for LTIR) + 2022 DAL 7th (C Linus Sjodin)

Buffalo totally got fleeced here.

[DarthEbriate]

4 hours ago, Curt said:

Buffalo totally got fleeced here.

They are paying $3.5M to get closer to the floor and keep the roster spots open for ELC players Quinn and JJP. If Quinn and JJP perform up to their AHL prowess... 5+ NHL seasons of 20+ goals and 50+ points from each (that's all line- and PP-dependent) -- this Bishop acquisition works out. If Sjodin plays a game in the NHL that's a Sabres win. (In hindsight, would I have rather seen the Yzerman trade-and-sign for Husso than the Bishop + 7th? Sure.)

It's all balanced on the teeter-totter of an actual starting-caliber goalie. This is the 3rd consecutive offseason (since Hutton's eye injury) where the team needed an upgrade at either starting or backup goalie and thus far the numbers haven't improved except for Ullmark. The team getting better puck possession and offense will help, but goalie goalie goalie.

2021-22: Anderson .897 in 31gp; Toker .899 in 29 gp

2020-21: Ullmark .917 in 20gp; Toker .904 in 13 gp/Hutton .886 in 13 gp

2019-20: Ullmark .915 in 34gp; Hutton .898 in 31gp

2018-19: Hutton .908 in 50gp; Ullmark .905 in 37gp (the season of Hutton's hot start, then the eye)

[Curt]

52 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

They are paying $3.5M to get closer to the floor and keep the roster spots open for ELC players Quinn and JJP. If Quinn and JJP perform up to their AHL prowess... 5+ NHL seasons of 20+ goals and 50+ points from each (that's all line- and PP-dependent) -- this Bishop acquisition works out. If Sjodin plays a game in the NHL that's a Sabres win. (In hindsight, would I have rather seen the Yzerman trade-and-sign for Husso than the Bishop + 7th? Sure.)

It's all balanced on the teeter-totter of an actual starting-caliber goalie. This is the 3rd consecutive offseason (since Hutton's eye injury) where the team needed an upgrade at either starting or backup goalie and thus far the numbers haven't improved except for Ullmark. The team getting better puck possession and offense will help, but goalie goalie goalie.

2021-22: Anderson .897 in 31gp; Toker .899 in 29 gp

2020-21: Ullmark .917 in 20gp; Toker .904 in 13 gp/Hutton .886 in 13 gp

2019-20: Ullmark .915 in 34gp; Hutton .898 in 31gp

2018-19: Hutton .908 in 50gp; Ullmark .905 in 37gp (the season of Hutton's hot start, then the eye)

I’m sorry.  I was being sarcastic.  Looking back at it now, it probably wasn’t obvious enough.

[Doohicksie]

21 hours ago, DarthEbriate said:

The Ben Bishop trade currently:

Future considerations = Ben Bishop ($4.9M cap hit/$3.5M salary; 1-yr: optional for LTIR) + 2022 DAL 7th (C Linus Sjodin)

You forgot to mention that of that $3.5M, 75% will be paid by insurance if he does go on LTIR as expected.

[nfreeman]

If he's good enough to play for Sweden at the World Juniors, he's good enough so that we shouldn't just assume he's not going to amount to anything.

In fact, I can see him surpassing the other Sabres Swedish Linuses:

Ullmark

Omark

Cronholm

any others?

[DarthEbriate]

15 hours ago, Doohickie said:

You forgot to mention that of that $3.5M, 75% will be paid by insurance if he does go on LTIR as expected.

We'd have to get to the cap to use the LTIR, though, correct? That'd be a lot of additional spending in order to save on the Bishop insurance.

[Curt]

4 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

We'd have to get to the cap to use the LTIR, though, correct? That'd be a lot of additional spending in order to save on the Bishop insurance.

The insurance company doesn’t care about NHL cap space rules.

There is insurance on Bishop’s health.  Bishop isn’t able to play.  The insurance company is going to pay out.

[sabresparaavida]

5 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

We'd have to get to the cap to use the LTIR, though, correct? That'd be a lot of additional spending in order to save on the Bishop insurance.

I may be wrong, but I believe he could still be LTIRed if we were not at the cap- I think we would need to be at the cap to get the cap relief associated with him being on LTIR. 

[DarthEbriate]

21 minutes ago, Curt said:

The insurance company doesn’t care about NHL cap space rules.

There is insurance on Bishop’s health.  Bishop isn’t able to play.  The insurance company is going to pay out.

21 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said:

I may be wrong, but I believe he could still be LTIRed if we were not at the cap- I think we would need to be at the cap to get the cap relief associated with him being on LTIR. 

Much obliged!

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, sabresparaavida said:

I may be wrong, but I believe he could still be LTIRed if we were not at the cap- I think we would need to be at the cap to get the cap relief associated with him being on LTIR. 

He won’t be LTIRed, he’ll just be put on regular IR.

That opens a roster spot but doesn’t give us cap relief

[sabresparaavida]

7 minutes ago, dudacek said:

He won’t be LTIRed, he’ll just be put on regular IR.

That opens a roster spot but doesn’t give us cap relief

He could very easily be put on LTIR. Putting a player on LTIR DOES NOT affect the cap space of the team or the cap hit of a contract. It instead creates cap relief, where a team can go over the cap. Having Bishop on LTIR would result in no change to the total cap hit of the team, it would just create cap relief space in the event that the team went over the cap.

Here’s a link explaining how LTIR works 

https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/LTIR

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, sabresparaavida said:

I may be wrong, but I believe he could still be LTIRed if we were not at the cap- I think we would need to be at the cap to get the cap relief associated with him being on LTIR. 

He will simply be IR'd.  Being placed on BF-LTIR is meaningless until the team payroll will exceed the salary cap.  And players can be retroactively placed onto BF-LTIR, so teams only invoke it when their team salary is about to go over the cap.  That is because a team doesn't gain the player's full salary's worth of relief, but rather only the potion that they'd be over the cap.  So, with an $82MM cap and a team with a $2MM player ready to go on BF-LTIR, if the team brings up a player raising the team payroll to $83MM when they invoke BF-LTIR, they can only go to $83MM w/ their cap and only gain $1MM in cap relief (not the $2MM of the player's full salary).  

They'd rather have the payroll at $84 w/ the BF-LTIR guy when they activate it to gain the full $2MM in relief.