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Here's something for all you draftniks and amateur scouts.  A contest!  I'm not nearly as well-versed as some here when it comes to this stuff, so I'm not going to enter--but I'll keep score.  Inspired by something I saw on Die By the Blade, here are the rules.

1.  Make a mock draft of the entire first round.  Post it here.

2.  Wait until Thursday and see how close you come, using the following point schedule:

(a)  Pick a player's spot exactly, 3 points.

(b)  Pick a player's spot within one spot of where he goes, 2 points.

(c)  Correctly pick that the player is selected in the first round, 1 point.

 

Have fun!

 

Posted

I haven't been following the draft much at all, but I don't just want to copy and paste someone else's mock draft so I moved things around a little bit.

 

1. Wright

2. Slafkovsky

3. Cooley

4. Nemec

5. Jiricek

6. Savoie

7. Kemell

8. Gauthier

9. Lekkerimaki

10. Korchinski

11. Kasper

12. Nazar

13. Mintyukov

14. Geekie

15. Mateychuk

16. Yurov

17. Lamberg

18. Howard

19. Bischel

20. McGroarty

21. Ohgren

22. Pickering

23. Snuggerud

24. Kulich

25. Mesar

26. Chelsey

27. Miroschinichenko

28. Belluz

29. Gaucher

30. Beck

31. Firkus

32. Ostlund

Posted

Normal Version:

1. MTL: Shane Wright

2. NJD: Juraj Slafkovsky

3. ARI: Logan Cooley

4. SEA: Simon Nemec

5. PHI: Cutter Gauthier

6. CBJ: David Jiricek

7. OTT: Joakim Kemell

8. DET: Marco Kasper

9. BUF: Frank Nazar

10. ANA: Jonathan Lekkerimaki

11. SJS: Kevin Korchinski

12. CBJ: Matthew Savoie

13. NYI: Brad Lambert

14. WPG: Connor Geekie

15. VAN: Isaac Howard

16. BUF: Liam Ohgren

17. NSH: Danila Yurov

18. DAL: Pavel Mintyukov

19. MIN: Rutger McGroarty

20. WSH: Noah Ostlund

21. PIT: Jiri Kulich

22. ANA: Denton Mateychuk

23: STL: Jimmy Snuggerud

24. MIN: Ivan Miroshnichenko

25. TOR: Ryan Chesley

26. MTL: Nathan Gaucher

27. ARI: Seamus Casey

28. BUF: Jagger Firkus

29. EDM: Jack Hughes

30. WPG: Filip Mesar

31. TBL: Lian Bichsel

32. ARI: Ty Nelson

 

 

 

Posted
Just now, thewookie1 said:

Early Trade Version:

1. MTL: Shane Wright

2. CHI: Logan Cooley

3. ARI: Matthew Savoie

4. SEA: Juraj Slafkovsky 

5. PHI: Cutter Gauthier 

6. CBJ: Simon Nemec

7. OTT: Joakim Kemell

8. DET: Marco Kasper

9. BUF:  David Jiricek 

10. ANA: Jonathan Lekkerimaki

11. SJS: Kevin Korchinski

12. CBJ: Frank Nazar

13. NYI: Brad Lambert

14. WPG: Connor Geekie

15. VAN: Isaac Howard

16. BUF: Liam Ohgren

17. NSH: Danila Yurov

18. DAL: Pavel Mintyukov

19. MIN: Rutger McGroarty

20. WSH: Noah Ostlund

21. PIT: Jiri Kulich

22. ANA: Denton Mateychuk

23: STL: Jimmy Snuggerud

24. MIN: Ivan Miroshnichenko

25. TOR: Ryan Chesley

26. MTL: Nathan Gaucher

27. ARI: Seamus Casey

28. BUF: Jagger Firkus

29. EDM: Jack Hughes

30. WPG: Filip Mesar

31. TBL: Lian Bichsel

32. ARI: Ty Nelson

 

The only primary change is DeBrincat going to NJD for the 2nd OA and perhaps other stuff is swapped too.

Posted
On 7/3/2022 at 12:29 PM, thewookie1 said:

 

The only primary change is DeBrincat going to NJD for the 2nd OA and perhaps other stuff is swapped too.

FYI: I read that Chicago allegedly turned down a high first, another 1st, and a prospect for DeBrincat.

Posted (edited)

Team  Player

1 Mon Wright

2 NJ Slafkovsky

3 AZ Cooley

4 Sea Nemec

5 Phi Gauthier

6 CBJ Jiricek

7 Ott Kemell

8 DET Savoie

9 Buf Kasper

10 ANA Korchinski

11 SJ Mintyukov

12 CBJ Nazar

13 NYI Lambert

14 WPG Lekkerimaki

15 VAN Mateychuk

16 Buf Snuggerud

17 NASH Pickering

18 Dal Yurov

19 Minn Geekie

20 WAS Kulich

21 PIT Ostlund

22 ANA Ohgren

23 STL Bichsel

24 Minn Gaucher

25 TOR Howard

26 MON McGroarty

27 AZ Rinzel

28 Buf Chesley

29 EDM Miroshinchenko

30 WPG Del Bel Belluz

31 TB Mesar

32 AZ Beck

 

 

 

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Posted
6 hours ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

FYI: I read that Chicago allegedly turned down a high first, another 1st, and a prospect for DeBrincat.

Then Chicago is stupid because at the end of the day he's still a little winger.

Posted

Why the hell not?

  • Montreal: succumbs to the hometown pressure and picks Wright
  • New Jersey: Slavkovsky proves to be too great a fit with their spine of young centres
  • Arizona: goes big and goes home with the 1st surprise, Arizona-raised Gauthier
  • Seattle: sticks with the plan and takes Nemec, the heady D to go with last year's centre
  • Philadelphia: trades the pick for immediate help. The delighted Blackhawks ***** up Cooley
  • Columbus: moves quickly for Jiricek to replace the Seth Jones hole on their blueline
  • Ottawa: Fast-climber Korchinski vaults himself all the way to number 7.
  • Detroit: decides its best centre option is right in its backyard with Nazar.
  • Buffalo: goes for speed and offence from Savoie
  • Anaheim: steps off the board and plays into type to grab Bichsel.
  • San Jose: happily snatches up Kasper as the best centre available
  • Columbus: wasn't planning on taking Kemmel, but he's too talented to ignore after dropping to 12
  • NY Islanders: hadn't considered Lekkerimaki dropping this far, but Lou loves his US college guys. They take Howard, as planned.
  • Winnipeg: the Jets also pauses over Lekkerimaki, but decide their needs elsewhere are too strong. They were hoping Mintyukov would be there and they take him.
  • Vancouver: Faced with the same dilemma as Winnipeg, Vancouver trades down. Arizona grabs Lekkerimaki for picks 27 and 32
  • Buffalo: The Sabres look to their ties with the USNDP for Snuggerud, sold on his tools and his character.
  • Nashville: grabs Kulich, fully buying in on his offensive breakout at the U18s.
  • Dallas: likes heavy, and they get heavy, taking big centre Gaucher from the Q
  • Minnesota: stops the free fall of Geekie, looking for talent and size up the middle.
  • Washington: With Backstrom out, the Caps move to fill with a big trade with the Canucks. They surprise some at 20 by picking Ostlund.
  • Pittsburgh: Steps up and rolls the dice on Lambert, the draft's most divisive prospect.
  • Anaheim: after going physical at 10, the Ducks go skill here with the crafty Firkus
  • St. Louis: the hard and heavy Blues see McGroarty as a perfect fit.
  • Minnesota: Minnesota catches another faller, the puck-moving defenceman Mateychuk
  • Toronto: rolls the dice on the first Russian, the highly skilled Yurov
  • Montreal: The Habs go big on the blueline with Lamoureaux
  • Arizona: 7 picks after "reaching" for Ostlund, the Canucks grab his surprisingly still available linemate Ohgren.
  • Buffalo: another USNDP player, Chesley fills a need at right D with good value at 28
  • Edmonton: The Oilers pick another riser, Schaefer, reaching in the minds of some to add a potential power forward
  • Winnipeg: After addressing their need on the blueline with their first pick, the Jets take Del Bel Belluz to fill another need at centre
  • Tampa:  a big defenceman with a toolbox, Pickering plays to type and fills a long-term need at D
  • Arizona: With their 3rd pick of round one, the Canucks go Rinzel, addressing a need at right D with a long-term project with tools

Kinda fun. Can't do a straight "rankings" draft and its interesting in showing how how trades and needs can really shake uo where certain players might go.

Posted (edited)
On 7/3/2022 at 7:38 AM, Eleven said:

Here's something for all you draftniks and amateur scouts.  A contest!  I'm not nearly as well-versed as some here when it comes to this stuff, so I'm not going to enter--but I'll keep score.  Inspired by something I saw on Die By the Blade, here are the rules.

1.  Make a mock draft of the entire first round.  Post it here.

2.  Wait until Thursday and see how close you come, using the following point schedule:

(a)  Pick a player's spot exactly, 3 points.

(b)  Pick a player's spot within one spot of where he goes, 2 points.

(c)  Correctly pick that the player is selected in the first round, 1 point.

 

Have fun!

 

Should be that everyone is scored by the number of picks away that player is from where you have him drafted, lowest score wins.

 

So for instance if you pick someone 10th and he gets drafted 17th, you get a 7 for him.

If you pick someone 15th and he gets drafted 10th, you get a 5 for him.

Obviously picking someone exactly where they are drafted would give a 0.

I feel this is much better scoring system in terms of showing how accurate a person is overall.

Why should someone who projects a player to go 12th but he goes 14th get the same score as someone who projects him to go 30th? 

In the original system, both players would have the same score, they would both get a point. In my system person A would get 2 and person B would get 16, accurately showing one person was far closer than the other.

Could even put a weight favoring later picks since they would be harder to get right than the early picks.

Edited by matter2003
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Posted
1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

Should be that everyone is scored by the number of picks away that player is from where you have him drafted, lowest score wins.

 

So for instance if you pick someone 10th and he gets drafted 17th, you get a 7 for him.

If you pick someone 15th and he gets drafted 10th, you get a 5 for him.

Obviously picking someone exactly where they are drafted would give a 0.

I feel this is much better scoring system in terms of showing how accurate a person is overall.

Why should someone who projects a player to go 12th but he goes 14th get the same score as someone who projects him to go 30th? 

In the original system, both players would have the same score, they would both get a point. In my system person A would get 2 and person B would get 16, accurately showing one person was far closer than the other.

Could even put a weight favoring later picks since they would be harder to get right than the early picks.

I like this. 

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I could see a DeBrincat trade as well and perhaps some other shuffling but aside from that here's my guesses:

1. Wright

2. Slafkovsky

3. Cooley

4. Nemec

5. Gauthier

6. Kemell

7. Jirichek

8. Lekkerimaki

9. Savoie

10. Korchinski

11. Kasper

12. Snuggerud

13. Geekie

14. Mintyukov

15. Pickering

16. Nazar

17. McGroarty

18. Chesley

19. Kulich

20. Yurov

21. Miroshnichenko

22. Lambert

23. Ohgren

24. Ostlund

25. Howard

26. Rinzel

27. Gaucher

28. Schaefer

29. Firkus

30. Del Bel Belluz

31. Bichsel

32. Beck

 

Posted
9 hours ago, matter2003 said:

Should be that everyone is scored by the number of picks away that player is from where you have him drafted, lowest score wins.

 

So for instance if you pick someone 10th and he gets drafted 17th, you get a 7 for him.

If you pick someone 15th and he gets drafted 10th, you get a 5 for him.

Obviously picking someone exactly where they are drafted would give a 0.

I feel this is much better scoring system in terms of showing how accurate a person is overall.

Why should someone who projects a player to go 12th but he goes 14th get the same score as someone who projects him to go 30th? 

In the original system, both players would have the same score, they would both get a point. In my system person A would get 2 and person B would get 16, accurately showing one person was far closer than the other.

Could even put a weight favoring later picks since they would be harder to get right than the early picks.

That's a lot more math but maybe I'll try it next year.  Let's see how this one goes.

Posted
10 hours ago, matter2003 said:

Should be that everyone is scored by the number of picks away that player is from where you have him drafted, lowest score wins.

 

So for instance if you pick someone 10th and he gets drafted 17th, you get a 7 for him.

If you pick someone 15th and he gets drafted 10th, you get a 5 for him.

Obviously picking someone exactly where they are drafted would give a 0.

I feel this is much better scoring system in terms of showing how accurate a person is overall.

Why should someone who projects a player to go 12th but he goes 14th get the same score as someone who projects him to go 30th? 

In the original system, both players would have the same score, they would both get a point. In my system person A would get 2 and person B would get 16, accurately showing one person was far closer than the other.

Could even put a weight favoring later picks since they would be harder to get right than the early picks.

I also agree with this 100%. How good or how accurate a mock draft is.. this is by far and away the best way to determine it.

Posted

I don't think I forgot anyway obvious but here is where I came out. Tried to look at some team needs and drafting patterns and bumped some guys up pretty high or down kinda low based on how drafts typically work.

  1. Shane Wright
  2. Juraj Slafkovsky
  3. Logan Cooley
  4. Simon Nemec
  5. Cutter Gauthier
  6. David Jiricek
  7. Kevin Korchinski
  8. Joakim Kemell
  9. Matthew Savoie
  10. Frank Nazar
  11. Pavel Mintyukov
  12. Jonathan Lekkerimaki
  13. Brad Lambert
  14. Marco Kasper
  15. Danila Yurov
  16. Rutger McGroarty
  17. Conor Geekie
  18. Owen Pickering
  19. Denton Mateychuk
  20. Liam Ohgren
  21. Jagger Firkus
  22. Noah Ostlund
  23. Jiri Kulich
  24. Jimmy Snuggerud
  25. Filip Mesar
  26. Nathan Gaucher
  27. Isaac Howard
  28. Ryan Chesley
  29. Liam Bichsel
  30. Ivan Miroshnichenko
  31. Calle Odelius
  32. David Goyette
Posted
1 hour ago, Eleven said:

That's a lot more math but maybe I'll try it next year.  Let's see how this one goes.

you could easily set up a spreadsheet to do all of it for you rather quickly

Posted
1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

you could easily set up a spreadsheet to do all of it for you rather quickly

I can't.  Someone else might be able to.  I'm not good with spreadsheets.

I should add that I'm not married to the scoring system--it is modified from a Die By The Blade post and not of my own invention--if someone else wants to take on the role of scorekeeper, have at it!

Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Eleven said:

I can't.  Someone else might be able to.  I'm not good with spreadsheets.

I should add that I'm not married to the scoring system--it is modified from a Die By The Blade post and not of my own invention--if someone else wants to take on the role of scorekeeper, have at it!

I can do the spreadsheet but it will be a spare time thing so the results might be a little delayed 😂 

Edited by matter2003
Posted (edited)

Here we go…

1 S.Wright

2 J.Slafkovsky

3 L.Cooley

4 S.Nemec

5 C.Gauthier

6 D.Jiricek

7 J.Lekkerimaki

8 P.Mintyukov

9 M.Savoie

10 K.Korchinski

11 J.Kemell

12 D.Yurov

13 B.Lambert

14 C.Geekie

15 L.Ohgren

16 M.Kasper

17 F.Nazar

18 J.Kulich

19 J.Snuggerud

20 N.Östlund

21 I.Miroshnichenko

22 R.McGroarty

23 O.Pickering

24 F.Mesar

25 D.Mateychuk

26 N.Gaucher

27 L.Bichsel

28 G.Trikozov

29 J.Firkus

30 I.Howard

31 L.Del Bel Belluz

32 L.Hutson

 

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Posted (edited)

OK here goes:

Wright

Slafkovsky

Cooler

Nemec

Gautier

Jiricek

Korchinski

Nazar

Savoie

Lekkerimaki

Mintyukov

Kemell

Mcgroarty

Kasper

Lambert

Yurov

Mateychuk

Chesley

Trikozov

Ohgren

Miroshnichenko 

Howard

Pickering

Ostlund

Geekie

Firkus

Bischel

Kulich

Gaucher

Mesar

Snuggerud

Casey

 

 

 

 

Edited by steveoath
Posted
5 hours ago, steveoath said:

OK here goes:

Wright

Slafkovsky

Cooler

Nemec

Gautier

Jiricek

Korchinski

Nazar

Savoie

Lekkerimaki

Mintyukov

Kemell

Mcgroarty

Kasper

Lambert

Yurov

Mateychuk

Chesley

Trikozov

Ohgren

Miroshnichenko 

Howard

Pickering

Outland

Geekie

Firkus

Bischel

Kulich

Gaucher

Mesar

Snuggerud

Casey

 

 

 

 

Your autocorrect put Outland where you probably meant Ostlund?

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Round 1
1. Shane Wright (Montreal Canadiens).
2. Juraj Slafkovsky (New Jersey Devils).
3. Logan Cooley (Arizona Coyotes).
4. Simon Nemec (Seattle Kraken).
5. David Jiricek (Philadelphia Flyers).
6. Cutter Gauthier (Columbus Blue Jackets from Chicago Blackhawks).
7. Marco Kasper (Ottawa Senators).
8. Joakim Kemell (Detroit Red Wings).
9. Matthew Savoie (Buffalo Sabres).
10. Jonathan Lekkerimäki (Anaheim Ducks).
11. Frank Nazar (San Jose Sharks).
12. Lian Bichsel (Columbus Blue Jackets).
13. Danila Yurov (New York Islanders).
14. Conor Geekie (Winnipeg Jets).
15. Noah Östlund (Vancouver Canucks).
16. Ivan Miroshnichenko (Buffalo Sabres from Vegas Golden Knights).
17. Brad Lambert (Nashville Predators).
18. Ty Nelson (Dallas Stars).
19. Denton Mateychuk (Minnesota Wild from Los Angeles Kings).
20. Filip Mesar (Washington Capitals).
21. Rutger McGroarty (Pittsburgh Penguins).
22. Liam Öhgren (Anaheim Ducks from Boston Bruins).
23. Isaac Howard (St. Louis Blues).
24. Jimmy Snuggerud (Minnesota Wild).
25. Pavel Mintyukov (Toronto Maple Leafs).
26. Seamus Casey (Montreal Canadiens from Calgary Flames).
27. Ruslan Gazizov (Arizona Coyotes from Carolina Hurricanes).
28. Ryan Chesley (Buffalo Sabres from Florida Panthers).
29. Gleb Trikozov (Edmonton Oilers).
30. Elias Salomonsson (Winnipeg Jets from New York Rangers).
31. Tristan Luneau (Tampa Bay Lightning).
32. Jack Hughes (Arizona Coyotes from Colorado Avalanche).

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