Official Sabres Acquire Ben Bishop and a 2022 7th Rounder for Future Considerations

[Flashsabre]

Fixed the goaltending problem and gained a 7th round pick. Adams is a genius.

The only issue seems to be the fact that Bishop can no longer play goal.😜😁

Edited June 10, 2022 by Flashsabre

[Curt]

A 7th round pick for a stack of Pegulabucks.

[Buffalonill]

Just a 7th ..

[dudacek]

6 minutes ago, Curt said:

A 7th round pick for a stack of Pegulabucks.

Can’t say I’m too fond of this one, unless there’s another shoe to drop.

Not the move itself, which is utterly (*shrugs*), but that it suggests Adams has good reason to believe he might not be getting to the floor this year.

Edited June 10, 2022 by dudacek

[Brawndo]

 

[Thwomp!]

Terry is cheap.  Hope the family lifestyle is holding up ok.  Can't wait to see the corpse we acquire next year.  We used to make fun of the Coyotes for doing this year after year.

Edited June 10, 2022 by Thwomp!
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[inkman]

2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

Just a 7th ..

I guess it shows how desperate the Sabres are to get to the cap floor without taking on large contracts. 

[thewookie1]

I have no strong feelings on this. All we’ve done is get closer to the cap floor for the upcoming season. If we end up needing the cap he can go on LTIR but I doubted from the start we’d spend 42 mil in cap this offseason 

[\GoBillsInDallas/]

 

[DarthEbriate]

Another draft pick simply for staying close to cap-compliant.

Dallas is going to be kicking themselves when Jakub Konecny (for Taylor Fedun) and this pick turn into the next Gaustad and Olofsson and help the Sabres win the Cup in game 4 in Dallas in 2027 (defending their 2026 Cup where they won in game 4 on home ice, obviously).

[Taro T]

34 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said:

Whelp, I was hoping for a bit more, but considering that cap space was almost certainly going unused anyways, I guess this move is a slight net positive? 

Likewise, but it's kind of the opposite of Botterill's 6th this year for a 6th next year, so it's good.

[LabattBlue]

I'm being lazy.  So do the Sabres actually pay his salary for 22-23, or is it just a cap space transaction?

[Taro T]

And this is the opposite of the owners being cheap.  They literally paid over $3MM for an extra 7th round pick.

[LabattBlue]

Just now, LabattBlue said:

I'm being lazy.  So do the Sabres actually pay his salary for 22-23, or is it just a cap space transaction?

Also, does he count as one of the 50 contracts or whatever the max contract number is?

 

[Thwomp!]

3 minutes ago, Taro T said:

And this is the opposite of the owners being cheap.  They literally paid over $3MM for an extra 7th round pick.

It's exactly being cheap.  They don't want to spend real money to get to the cap floor.  They bought $5 million in cap at maybe 75% off, as you speculated earlier.

Wait even more since his actual salary is already discounted compared to his cap hit.

This is a Coyote deal.

Edited June 10, 2022 by Thwomp!

[thewookie1]

It can honestly be either cheap or not depending on how the off-season goes as a whole. Does Bishop barely get us over the floor or do we have 79mil in cap come October? 

[Brawndo]

5 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

It can honestly be either cheap or not depending on how the off-season goes as a whole. Does Bishop barely get us over the floor or do we have 79mil in cap come October? 

They are 14 Million under the cap floor after  acquiring Bishop

Edited June 10, 2022 by Brawndo

[LGR4GM]

2 things absolutely amaze me. 

First, that after 10 years of spending to the cap and being trash, some of you still equate spending to the cap with being good. The predictable push back on this move is also bizarre considering free agency hasn't started.

Second, that after everything that has gone since the Eichel trade, you still don't understand or accept where the team is and why they probably don't want to hand out massive deals this offseason. We know in 2023 and 2024 almost all the players we think are turning this thing around, need new contracts. 

[thewookie1]

Another thought I had was making this move technically makes our cap space a bit more valuable than before and will lessen the degree of Agents trying to squeeze the Sabres due to their exorbitant amount of cap space.

 

Essentially, if you are 42mil under the cap and offer a guy 2mil guy 3mil; what exactly is stopping him from asking for 6mil if he knows the Sabres need cap to reach the floor?

[LGR4GM]

8 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

It can honestly be either cheap or not depending on how the off-season goes as a whole. Does Bishop barely get us over the floor or do we have 79mil in cap come October? 

There is about a 1% chance we're at 79 mill in October and 0% chance it has to do with being cheap. 

[Thwomp!]

We're not even spending to get to the cap FLOOR. Would that be too much to ask? Rather than becoming Coyote east?

He bought 4.9 million in cap for probably 1 million in actual dollars. And that 4.9 will be used to get to the floor. I'd bet on it.

[LGR4GM]

Just now, thewookie1 said:

Another thought I had was making this move technically makes our cap space a bit more valuable than before and will lessen the degree of Agents trying to squeeze the Sabres due to their exorbitant amount of cap space.

 

Essentially, if you are 42mil under the cap and offer a guy 2mil guy 3mil; what exactly is stopping him from asking for 6mil if he knows the Sabres need cap to reach the floor?

Knowing your client has limited options and Buffalo will just hang up and move on. 

[thewookie1]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Knowing your client has limited options and Buffalo will just hang up and move on. 

Well I’m more angling towards a player with a few different offers

 

Personally I’d start working on our RFAs now because the sooner we hit the cap floor; the more valuable our cap space becomes in trades.

[FogBat]

3 hours ago, Doohickie said:

That's really the question:  What's in it for us?  Does this mean Kevyn is not looking to sign any significant free agents or acquire any salary in a hockey trade? 

If he does nothing else, I want to see him address the goalie situation, but signing the dead cap of a goalie who can't play is not the answer.

My first reaction: 

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

Well I’m more angling towards a player with a few different offers

 

Personally I’d start working on our RFAs now because the sooner we hit the cap floor; the more valuable our cap space becomes in trades.

Again, if the Sabres value a player at 2 million and because they have space the agent says 5 million, you just walk away. It's pretty easy.