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2022 NHL Draft Combine: May 30th-June 4th, Buffalo NY

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Some of the combine tests can also reveal asymmetry in the kid's physique (e.g. right leg noticeably stronger than left) - useful for knowing when discussing training regimes, or evaluating likelihood of injury etc

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1 hour ago, Trettioåtta said:

Some of the combine tests can also reveal asymmetry in the kid's physique (e.g. right leg noticeably stronger than left) - useful for knowing when discussing training regimes, or evaluating likelihood of injury etc

What if his right forearm and center leg where the strongest?

For me the combine is a great way for teams to meet a lot of young men in a neutral situation and be able to learn more about them personality wise. They're 17-18 years old, they are still developing. They may get a good guess at who will become more *athletic* but it's still a lottery with their physical future.

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6 hours ago, RochesterExpat said:

I can't fault him for signing an ELC. Buffalo screwed his development. I don't blame him for that.

The fault starts with XGMJB for using Casey to see if he had a ready excuse to move ROR.

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Didn't the Sabres push a few years back to get the prospects on the ice for some additional testing after the combine?  I can't quite remember but I thought some of the other teams thought that might give the Sabres an extra advantage as the host.

Why doesn't the NHL include on ice testing is another question?  I did find a older ESPN article from 2019 that addressed that.  Here's a clip from that story that gives a bit of rationale:

Why the players don't skate at the combine

Dan Marr, the director of the NHL's central scouting services, is charged with planning the annual combine. It's a big part of a job that does not begin or end with the execution of the event. Marr, who has been on the job since 2012, used his first year to observe how the combine operated. After that, he looked for ways to better serve the member clubs with this event, so he took a comprehensive survey with input from all teams. Among the questions on that survey was if there was an appetite to add on-ice testing.

According to Marr, two-thirds of the respondents did not wish to add an on-ice component to the testing, especially after learning what that would entail.

"You have to have guys to bring the equipment. You need proper support staff. You also need the proper insurance," said Marr, noting the introduction of equipment requires the need for equipment managers and potentially more athletic trainers on staff. "There's just not a whole lot of time anyway. [The teams] are already tied up with meetings."

Essentially, the benefit was not viewed as significant enough to outweigh the challenges that would come along with on-ice testing. Marr also noted that agents and advisers have expressed concerns about adding an on-ice component, wondering what their clients ultimately would gain from it.

Another key issue is the time of year that the combine is held. Some players have been out of action for over two months, while some have either participated in the recent world championship or the Memorial Cup. It creates a further imbalance among the players that could ultimately skew the results.

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15 hours ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

For crap sake can we not drop this whole pullup nonsense.

It was years ago and really means nothing.

No and not true.  If you can't do a pullup at the combine it literally means you don't workout enough, or you have an injury.  Both of these things are very high on my list of things I would want/need to know when taking a flyer on a critical investment.  

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5 hours ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said:

No and not true.  If you can't do a pullup at the combine it literally means you don't workout enough, or you have an injury.  Both of these things are very high on my list of things I would want/need to know when taking a flyer on a critical investment.  

He was a worthy investment. The main problem was not that he couldn't do pullups or master any of the physical tests, it was the way he was handled after being drafted. Another year in college would have benefited him both physically and from a maturity standpoint. He simply was rushed before he was ready to play in the NHL. To a lesser extent so was Tage. After struggling playing against NHL men they were sent down to Rochester where they got plenty of playing time and added time to work on their game. After serving time in the lower league each player was better prepared when brought up to handle the rigors of the NHL.

KA has specifically stated that he wasn't going to rush his young players. He commented that he would rather error on keeping them in the lower league longer rather than error in bringing them up too soon. If you look at how Samuelsson, Quinn and JJ have been handled he has clearly followed through on the best way to handle prospects i.e. exercise patience. 

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17 hours ago, SHAAAUGHT!!! said:

No and not true.  If you can't do a pullup at the combine it literally means you don't workout enough, or you have an injury.  Both of these things are very high on my list of things I would want/need to know when taking a flyer on a critical investment.  

How many is enough? 

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Casey Mittelstadt needed a chiropractic adjustment and that explains his combine. He got that adjustment about 2 seconds after being in college and was doing pull-ups just fine. Didn't say that precisely but ik it was talked about. Here's the best I can do. 

https://theathletic.com/133014/2017/10/20/casey-mittelstadt-minnesota-golden-gophers-mens-college-hockey/

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