Forgot about J? (Featuring JJ Peterka )

[Curt]

29 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

How's rossi doing these days, is everyone still upset by the Quinn pick? 

Rossi is producing about as well as Peterka, but is probably better defensively.  Quinn’s offensive production is blowing Rossi out of the water.

[Wyldnwoody44]

31 minutes ago, Curt said:

Rossi is producing about as well as Peterka, but is probably better defensively.  Quinn’s offensive production is blowing Rossi out of the water.

I thought Rossi was billed as a better 2 way forward, but I don't remember much chatter about Quinn at the draft, at least not in the top 15. Maybe this pick will give us hope in acquiring better talent. 

[Curt]

8 minutes ago, Wyldnwoody44 said:

I thought Rossi was billed as a better 2 way forward, but I don't remember much chatter about Quinn at the draft, at least not in the top 15. Maybe this pick will give us hope in acquiring better talent. 

Rossi is/was regarded as a 200-ft, very defensively strong C.  Quinn is/was also generally regarded as good defensively though, but from the wing.

Quinn was generally ranked around 12-18ish on lists, Rossi was ranked higher and he was honed in on by many here as a great target because he was a C who was undervalued because of his smaller height.

So it was a big shock when Sabres took Quinn at #8.  Looks like a good move so far though.

Edited April 10, 2022 by Curt

[Digger]

I don't think anyone forgot about him.  To a certain extent it's difficult to gauge where he is at the end of the season (with respect to the Sabres and playing consistent at an NHL level).  Is he ready to take the step or does he still need to keep developing defensively a bit more before making the Sabres full time?  As I recall, we have very limited call-ups allowed from Rochester after the trade deadline because we used 3 (on paper) for Samuelson, Krebs, and Fitzgerald.  Ideally we would have both JJP and Quinn up for a few games to see if they where they are but we also need them playing well for Rochester to see if we can get into the playoffs.  May still be the plan.

[Crusader1969]

45 minutes ago, Digger said:

I don't think anyone forgot about him.  To a certain extent it's difficult to gauge where he is at the end of the season (with respect to the Sabres and playing consistent at an NHL level).  Is he ready to take the step or does he still need to keep developing defensively a bit more before making the Sabres full time?  As I recall, we have very limited call-ups allowed from Rochester after the trade deadline because we used 3 (on paper) for Samuelson, Krebs, and Fitzgerald.  Ideally we would have both JJP and Quinn up for a few games to see if they where they are but we also need them playing well for Rochester to see if we can get into the playoffs.  May still be the plan.

Unless there is a rash of injuries, they only have one call up left.     
But you are right every game / point is crucial for the Amerks down the stretch 

[RochesterExpat]

I watch a lot of Amerks games via AHL.tv and JJ's "defensive liability" is lessening as the season continues. Quinn has a much better two-way game and they're not at all at the same stage in development, but JJ continues to get better and should be starting the season in Buffalo next year.

Peterka mentioned in an interview that he struggled when he first arrived in Rochester because the changes in the rink size. The DEL plays on a sheet of ice that is something like 20% wider than an NHL rink. This allows for substantially more real estate on zone entry (the old "finesse" vs "physicality" argument) and players tend to carry the puck for longer stretches. If you watch the Amerks, you'll notice he has a tendency to overcommit on man and he doesn't position well in zone. It happens a lot with EU skaters when transitioning to NA hockey.

When Asplund first came to Rochester, he was a similar defensive liability for the majority of the season and even into his second year because he would be incorrectly positioned on zone coverage. I would hardly think anyone will argue he's a defensive liability in Buffalo at this point.

Considering JJ  was billed as a two-way, physical skater during the draft, I believe his game will adapt--as it did with offense--and he will figure out the defensive aspects to North American hockey in due time. It's something he's clearly been working on as it is already. 

[dudacek]

I don't think JJ is a star in the making — I more picture middle-six — but I do think his skill set is such that he could develop into a player that could end up in one of several different roles. His attitude is such that his defence is nothing that won't improve with experience.

[bunomatic]

On 4/10/2022 at 3:22 PM, Wyldnwoody44 said:

How's rossi doing these days, is everyone still upset by the Quinn pick? 

Never was. I mean I heard all the whining it just wasn’t coming from me.🤣

[JoeSchmoe]

Who are we talking about again?

[Crusader1969]

Craig Button …. You just made the list 

JJ at 31?????   No respect 

 

 

[GoPuckYourself]

On 4/10/2022 at 6:22 PM, Wyldnwoody44 said:

How's rossi doing these days, is everyone still upset by the Quinn pick? 

He has only played in 2 games so far, 0 stats and a -1 +/- so far.