GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 This should have been done day 1 of the invasion. 3 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 What are the odds now on whether any of Poltapov, Kisakov or Novikov every play for the Sabres? Quote
Marvin Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: What are the odds now on whether any of Poltapov, Kisakov or Novikov every play for the Sabres? That is a very good question. Quote
Brawndo Posted March 8, 2022 Author Report Posted March 8, 2022 From the article NHL teams are free to continue to communicate with their Russian players and or prospects, and with their North American-based agents. 1 Quote
Weave Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: What are the odds now on whether any of Poltapov, Kisakov or Novikov every play for the Sabres? If this turns into a long-ish war you can kiss last years draft goodbye. 1 Quote
Pimlach Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, Weave said: If this turns into a long-ish war you can kiss last years draft goodbye. Unless they can get out and stay out. Quote
Curt Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 I don’t think that this severing of ties between NHL and KHL will have an affect on whether or not Sabres Russian prospects are able to come over to NHL. NHL and KHL never had a player movement agreement, so none of them were coming over before the ends of their KHL contracts anyway. What will have an affect is whether Russia allows its citizens to come and go freely from the country. 3 Quote
Eleven Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Curt said: NHL and KHL never had a player movement agreement Are you sure about this? I thought there was a compensation agreement in place for KHL players coming here, but not necessarily vice-versa. 2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: This should have been done day 1 of the invasion. This is called "letting perfect get in the way of good" and it encourages, rather than discourages, hesitancy. 2 Quote
Curt Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eleven said: Are you sure about this? I thought there was a compensation agreement in place for KHL players coming here, but not necessarily vice-versa. Not 100% sure, but that’s what I believed. Quote
Claude Balls Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 Is it just me, or do Bettman and Putzin kinda look alike?? 1 Quote
dudacek Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 The 2021 Russian haul was 3 years away from Buffalo at the earliest without this. We're a long way away from knowing how, or if, this will affect them. 2 Quote
mjd1001 Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 15 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: What are the odds now on whether any of Poltapov, Kisakov or Novikov every play for the Sabres? If they are good enough I'd still say very good odds they make it here. This "war" is only a couple weeks old. A lot can happen in the next few weeks, or months. Wars can be won or lost, governments can change their positions, things can be ironed out in treaties....even whole governments can change. Those guys may not have even been contributors to the big club for 2-3 years or more. Things are likely to be a lot different then than they have been for the last 2 weeks. 1 Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 I find it annoying that the NHL would honour existing KHL contracts. If I'm the NHL, any agreement to keep players in Russia would be tossed. So, if a Lawrence Pilut wanted to walk away from his KHL team and get out of the evil empire tomorrow, he'd be free to do so. What they've done here is just window dressing and does not have any real impact. Quote
Curt Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 18 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: I find it annoying that the NHL would honour existing KHL contracts. If I'm the NHL, any agreement to keep players in Russia would be tossed. So, if a Lawrence Pilut wanted to walk away from his KHL team and get out of the evil empire tomorrow, he'd be free to do so. What they've done here is just window dressing and does not have any real impact. The NHL is not the US government and the KHL is not Vladimir Putin. First bold- what would be your legal standing to do so? Second bold- That is basically correct. Practically, it’s just that the NHL will no longer be communicating with the KHL to get player contract details and stuff like that. Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Curt said: The NHL is not the US government and the KHL is not Vladimir Putin. First bold- what would be your legal standing to do so? Second bold- That is basically correct. Practically, it’s just that the NHL will no longer be communicating with the KHL to get player contract details and stuff like that. Legal standing? You just do it. What can the KHL do if a player walks away? Nothing. We've got businesses walking away from Russia all over the place. NHL should join suit. The previous agreements are simply niceties that guarantee cooperation between the two leagues, so we don't get players leaving back and forth willy nilly. Sure, the NHL may also lose a player or two, but I'm guessing that in the current climate, players won't be lining up to play in Putin's league. Quote
Curt Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 42 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Legal standing? You just do it. What can the KHL do if a player walks away? Nothing. We've got businesses walking away from Russia all over the place. NHL should join suit. The previous agreements are simply niceties that guarantee cooperation between the two leagues, so we don't get players leaving back and forth willy nilly. Sure, the NHL may also lose a player or two, but I'm guessing that in the current climate, players won't be lining up to play in Putin's league. Yeah, I guess. I wouldn’t have a real problem with it if they did decide not to honor KHL contracts any longer. I’m not so sure that it makes much difference one way or another though. Players are probably going to be hesitant to screw over their KHL teams and risk mob type retaliation against themselves or their families. Quote
Huckleberry Posted March 8, 2022 Report Posted March 8, 2022 so next year at our usual 8th spot in the draft michkov will still be there waiting for us 😛 Quote
Curt Posted March 9, 2022 Report Posted March 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Huckleberry said: so next year at our usual 8th spot in the draft michkov will still be there waiting for us 😛 If he is, Sabres should probably draft him! Quote
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