What, no mention of Drury & Briere?

[Porous Five Hole]

Back already and managing for NYR & Phili.

I don’t hate them but it was time for them to go.  

[Trettioåtta]

Has either had anything to do with the Sabres since 2007?

[Porous Five Hole]

I’m joking in reference to the “no mention of Eichel” thread. 

They’re gone. He’s gone. Let. It. Go. 

[Porous Five Hole]

And their situation also relates directly to Eichel:

They both would’ve stayed for the same deal apparently. Both would’ve been in the neighborhood of 5yr/$25M but Briere got a boatload offer from Philly and Drury left them hanging when Rangers called. Had the Sabres had any foresight, they would’ve had deals done during the season and the franchise’s last decade looks totally different. No tank, no Eichel, no decade of no playoffs. Who knows how long Lindy stays.

But the point still stands…let Eichel go.  

Edited February 21, 2022 by Porous Five Hole

[pastajoe]

And then to avoid further PR damage from them leaving, the Sabres resigned Vanek to a big contract instead of taking 5 1st round picks from Edmonton, which in retrospect would have been the better long term deal.

[msw2112]

4 minutes ago, pastajoe said:

And then to avoid further PR damage from them leaving, the Sabres resigned Vanek to a big contract instead of taking 5 1st round picks from Edmonton, which in retrospect would have been the better long term deal.

Hey, now.  Let's not overdramatize things.  It was FOUR first round picks....And most of those were at the top of the draft.  One was our old friend Taylor Hall, who ended up a Sabre anyway and was a huge success with the team.

https://oilersnation.com/2020/07/09/throwback-thursday-this-week-in-2007-the-edmonton-oilers-signed-thomas-vanek-to-a-seven-year-offer-sheet/

"Here’s the four players that Edmonton drafted with the picks they would’ve given up: Sam Gagner in 2007, Magnus Paajarvi in 2009 and Taylor Hall in 2010. The 2008 pick was used in a later offer sheet for Dustin Penner."

 

[Taro T]

3 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

And their situation also relates directly to Eichel:

They both would’ve stayed for the same deal apparently. Both would’ve been in the neighborhood of 5yr/$25M but Briere got a boatload offer from Philly and Drury left them hanging when Rangers called. Had the Sabres had any foresight, they would’ve had deals done during the season and the franchise’s last decade looks totally different. No tank, no Eichel, no decade of no playoffs. Who knows how long Lindy stays.

But the point still stands…let Eichel go.  

Drury actually HAD a deal worked out in season w/ Regier.  It languished on Golisano's desk LITERALLY for weeks & by the time Tommy got around to approving the deal, Drury said let's wait until til after the season to finalize it.

And the rest is history.

[Porous Five Hole]

Just now, Taro T said:

Drury actually HAD a deal worked out in season w/ Regier.  It languished on Golisano's desk LITERALLY for weeks & by the time Tommy got around to approving the deal, Drury said let's wait until til after the season to finalize it.

And the rest is history.

I wish there was a rationale for not locking up Briere at the same time.  

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I wish there was a rationale for not locking up Briere at the same time.  

Umm, you mean besides the fact that the Sabres couldn't do so until after January 1 but the Drury deal was ready to be signed in the fall?

[Trettioåtta]

12 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Umm, you mean besides the fact that the Sabres couldn't do so until after January 1 but the Drury deal was ready to be signed in the fall?

Don't forget Reiger's stupid 'Don't negotiate during the season' rule

[Taro T]

Just now, Trettioåtta said:

Don't forget Reiger's stupid 'Don't negotiate during the season' rule

That was not followed w/ Drury.  They were negotiating in season in October.

[tom webster]

I really don’t want to drudge up old news but as poorly as LQ and TG handled this, they still had a chance to sign both before the draft and acquire another star player but DR talked them out of the trade scenario and they ended up waiting two days before the start of free agency before even approaching Briere and that was only after they realized that Drury might bolt.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 hours ago, pastajoe said:

And then to avoid further PR damage from them leaving, the Sabres resigned Vanek to a big contract instead of taking 5 1st round picks from Edmonton, which in retrospect would have been the better long term deal.

That was the correct move. But at the time, people would have stormed Marine Midland Arena (or whatever it was called then, I forget) with torches and pitchforks.

[klos1963]

5 hours ago, msw2112 said:

Hey, now.  Let's not overdramatize things.  It was FOUR first round picks....And most of those were at the top of the draft.  One was our old friend Taylor Hall, who ended up a Sabre anyway and was a huge success with the team.

https://oilersnation.com/2020/07/09/throwback-thursday-this-week-in-2007-the-edmonton-oilers-signed-thomas-vanek-to-a-seven-year-offer-sheet/

"Here’s the four players that Edmonton drafted with the picks they would’ve given up: Sam Gagner in 2007, Magnus Paajarvi in 2009 and Taylor Hall in 2010. The 2008 pick was used in a later offer sheet for Dustin Penner."

 

Is that accurate? I thought it was every other year, not consecutive years.

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, klos1963 said:

Is that accurate? I thought it was every other year, not consecutive years.

Every year.  And if a team doesn't have their own next 4 1st rounders, no max level offer can be tendered.

[Thorner]

8 hours ago, Porous Five Hole said:

I’m joking in reference to the “no mention of Eichel” thread. 

They’re gone. He’s gone. Let. It. Go. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Do you realize these two punks played less then 3 years each for the Sabres.

[Thorner]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Do you realize these two punks played less then 3 years each for the Sabres.

The last 3 years of true Sabres magic 

[gilbert11]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:39 AM, Porous Five Hole said:

Back already and managing for NYR & Phili.

I don’t hate them but it was time for them to go.  

How mature!

[Porous Five Hole]

1 hour ago, gilbert11 said:

How mature!

We started a thing. It was fun! I hope I didn’t offend you. I was just overreacting to the Eichel interest. I’m focused on what’s next, not the tank fruit that soured. 

[gilbert11]

1 hour ago, Porous Five Hole said:

We started a thing. It was fun! I hope I didn’t offend you. I was just overreacting to the Eichel interest. I’m focused on what’s next, not the tank fruit that soured. 

It’s fine.

[calti]

On 2/21/2022 at 9:48 AM, Porous Five Hole said:

I’m joking in reference to the “no mention of Eichel” thread. 

They’re gone. He’s gone. Let. It. Go. 

13 seconds --let it GO

[Sabres Fan in NS]

I mentioned them yesterday in the new core thread.

[Buffalonill]

The day the franchise died 

[Porous Five Hole]