UPL Recalled

[Curt]

2 hours ago, Weave said:

I don’t think anyone was suggesting that little guys with money on the line will directly work to rig games.  More likely, the increased pool of money will further incentivize the rich and powerful people to rig outcomes.

So, sports will work just like politics. 🙈

To the bolded, How so?  When you place a bet, your payout for a win has nothing to do with how much/many other bets were placed.

[Curt]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

That's the hope. But I wonder if outcomes are steered to achieve certain attractive matchups.

In my opinion, it wouldn’t be worth the potential loss of legitimacy.  I don’t think they would risk it.

Plus who would be masterminding this?  wouldn’t allow the owners need to be on board with such a scheme?

[Weave]

7 minutes ago, Curt said:

To the bolded, How so?  When you place a bet, your payout for a win has nothing to do with how much/many other bets were placed.

More bettors = more money in the pool = more shenanigans

Edited December 7, 2021 by Weave

[Doohicksie]

5 hours ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

Eddie, the Shipboard Computer, not Mr. Scott.  I presume you are Zaphod Beeblebrox having had too many Janx Spirits?

It was purposely mixed, being a response to a Star Wars fan with a mashup of Star Trek and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe.

 

 

 

Yes, I meant Universe

 

By the time they get to the cover of the volume, even copy editors make mistakes.

Edited December 7, 2021 by The Ghost of Yuri

[DarthEbriate]

57 minutes ago, The Ghost of Yuri said:

By the time they get to the cover of the volume, even copy editors make mistakes.

From time to time. Dear, oh dear.

[Taro T]

2 hours ago, The Ghost of Yuri said:

It was purposely mixed, being a response to a Star Wars fan with a mashup of Star Trek and the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe.

 

 

 

Yes, I meant Universe

 

By the time they get to the cover of the volume, even copy editors make mistakes.

It's the bigger sequel.  😉

 

[Doohicksie]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

It's the bigger sequel.  😉

My wife got it for me back in then 1980s.  I didn't notice the error on the binding until after I had it a while.  I suppose if I found a serious collector it might be worth something.

[Thorner]

On 12/7/2021 at 9:13 AM, The Ghost of Yuri said:

I have never seen the allure of gambling.  I've been gambling a very small handful of times (like maybe 2 or 3, going to Vegas).  I put money toward something.  I quickly lost it all.  Some people call that entertainment.  I call it foolishness.  I just can't get how people can get beyond that level to get sucked in.  I've always understood that gambling is stacked against the gambler (the house has to make a profit after all), and that to get any good at gambling I would have to lose a lot before I was proficient and that even for the proficient, the odds are stacked against the gambler.  It just makes no sense to me.

Because it's not really about winning, it's about feeling. 

[Doohicksie]

I guess either I never got that feeling or the feeling in me is not as addictive.

[Thorner]

On 12/7/2021 at 11:34 AM, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

I have OCD and a somewhat addictive personality with a depression-heavy bipolar disorder.  I also have been thrown out of casinos for counting cards long before the MIT Poker team existed.

The rush from a win against the odds is very real.  When I won when the odds were against me but I played the percentages, I got a rush of neurotransmitters that is hard to describe; the closest I can come to is the Bills backing into the playoffs with help from the Bengals.  If I did not have the internal discipline to play my game against all distractions and to quit if I fell too far behind, I could easily see myself blowing wads of cash at the casino.  If I were really depressed, I could imagine every little win while I was losing my shirt would be very attractive.

I am very thankful that I have such discipline and that I channel these issues into being a good researcher and studious employee.

At least you'll understand and appreciate, then, that when the game show host reveals an empty door, you CHANGE YOUR ANSWER

[Thorner]

1 minute ago, The Ghost of Yuri said:

I guess either I never got that feeling or the feeling in me is not as addictive.

The feeling is addictive when the person is in a spot where they aren't "feeling" much, otherwise. 

[Marvin]

1 hour ago, Thorny said:

At least you'll understand and appreciate, then, that when the game show host reveals an empty door, you CHANGE YOUR ANSWER

I remember when the Monty Hall problem first came out.  I spent about half a class on it because it is counter-intuitive for most.  What is interesting it that the confusion only occurs with three doors.  I simulated this with picking the Joker out of a set of cards.  No one screws up with 4 cards and you show two cards.  Indeed, the students, from the A's to the F's, intuitively knew to switch even if you show only 1 card.

[Thorner]

1 hour ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said:

I remember when the Monty Hall problem first came out.  I spent about half a class on it because it is counter-intuitive for most.  What is interesting it that the confusion only occurs with three doors.  I simulated this with picking the Joker out of a set of cards.  No one screws up with 4 cards and you show two cards.  Indeed, the students, from the A's to the F's, intuitively knew to switch even if you show only 1 card.

That's really interesting, I wonder why that is..

But yes some really fun conversations (I guess I'm a nerd) have come from working through the problem with people and mapping it out. The realization moment is always cool.