GDT: Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Buffalo Sabres, 11/13/21 —7 pm MSG and WGR

[woods-racer]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:48 AM, Gatorman0519 said:

The Coyotes got this by a mile. They may not win 10 games. 

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I believe Montreal and Ottawa will make some great moves to help in their quest to show a proper tank.

[Forecheck]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:48 AM, SDS said:

How do you know what the management expected?

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If the management expected to win with the goaltending they chose to go with this year we are in bigger trouble than we thought. It’s far more reasonable to conclude they didn’t expect to win. I’m guessing you must know the answer. 

[Pimlach]

Attendance was 7,992.  
 

Can’t believe we lost that point in the last 11 seconds. 
 

Sure, the goaltending was poor. But that goal could have been avoided with smarter and physically stronger play.  

Edited November 14, 2021 by Pimlach

[Gatorman0519]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:48 AM, Flashsabre said:

Dell has played 114 NHL games. Let’s not pretend he is a journeyman minor leaguer. He was flat out awful this evening.

Butcher needs to go as well. Miller was to blame too.

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Samuelson and Power will be taking these guys spots next year.  Bryson looks much better than them as well.

[Drag0nDan]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:45 AM, Billznut said:

The Sabres could upgrade in goal if they really really wanted to try and win more games this year. They won’t try to upgrade and it’s a real shame. This team is playing much better than anyone including their own management expected. 

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How long is Anderson out?

[PerreaultForever]

I normally don't like blaming goalies because more often than not it's bad team D and they take the fall for the whole thing being the last man but really, Dell is absolute sh#t and shouldn't be playing in the NHL at all. 

With any form of decent goaltending we beat them tonight handily. They seem to play well against the fast offensive type teams and match up well. The hard D physical ones have been the bigger problem. Cozens did the job again for the most part. Very promising stuff all around, except in goal.

Overall what I see mostly in terms of an early season assessment is this team is finally being coached. We haven't been coached like this since Lindy and it shows. Nothing special, just basic hockey fundamentals, good passing, good positional play, teamwork, proper line changes, better utilization of players and their skills. Maybe now that certain people are gone these guys just listen better and do as they are told, or the leadership has them in a better spot or it's just proper coaching, but whatever it is, it is the beginnings of a better foundation.

For the first time in years, I feel encouraged and optimistic. 

F the Leafs. They were lucky. 

[klos1963]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:53 AM, Pimlach said:

Attendance was 7,992.  
 

Can’t believe we lost that point in the last 11 seconds. 

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That's really unexpected for a Saturday night Leafs game.

[PromoTheRobot]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:39 AM, SABRES 0311 said:

Dell’s trade value is as high as it’s going to be right now.  Just saying.

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Two rolls of stick tape?

[LGR4GM]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:48 AM, SDS said:

How do you know what the management expected?

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How do they know they aren't trying to upgrade the goaltending?

[Pimlach]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:56 AM, klos1963 said:

That's really unexpected for a Saturday night Leafs game.

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To me it is unexpected you smart aleck. I expect we beat the Leafs on any night, especially when home.   Sorry your standards are so low. 

[klos1963]

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:00 AM, Pimlach said:

To me it is unexpected you smart aleck. I expect we beat the Leafs on any night, especially when home.   Sorry your standards are so low. 

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I meant the fricking attendance, that's why i highlighted it on your post.  Jesus

Edited November 14, 2021 by klos1963

[LGR4GM]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:55 AM, Drag0nDan said:

How long is Anderson out?

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Weeks

[Pimlach]

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:02 AM, klos1963 said:

I meant the fricking attendance, that's why i highlighted it on your post.  Jesus

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Sorry man.  I just relooked at it. You bolded the attendance part.  I’m just pissed off because I hate losing.  I missed your point. 🍺 

[kas23]

I really don’t like the NHL’s handling of injuries. I get it, privacy. But, these players aren’t exactly private citizens. It would be nice to know exactly what injuries they have and how long they will be out. 

[Flashsabre]

The name I see is available is Korpisalo but he has been sub .900 sv percentage the past 2 years. Vladar was the guy I wanted before he went to Calgary. Who can be a short term upgrade until Anderson is back?

[Doohicksie]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:55 AM, Drag0nDan said:

How long is Anderson out?

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Day-to-day.  So he should be back in..... 2024?

[Zamboni]

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:08 AM, kas23 said:

I really don’t like the NHL’s handling of injuries. I get it, privacy. But, these players aren’t exactly private citizens. It would be nice to know exactly what injuries they have and how long they will be out. 

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Yes. But it is well known that those known injuries are then heavily targeted by players when the recently injured return.

Watch players go after Eichel’s shoulders and maybe even his neck “on accident” in the corners in March. I bet it happens.

[klos1963]

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:08 AM, kas23 said:

I really don’t like the NHL’s handling of injuries. I get it, privacy. But, these players aren’t exactly private citizens. It would be nice to know exactly what injuries they have and how long they will be out. 

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They are private citizens. 

[Doohicksie]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:57 AM, PromoTheRobot said:

Two rolls of stick tape?

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Two?

[Stoner]

No player or coach interviews after the game. Interesting. Wonder if they closed the old lockerroom. Granato can't let them "learn to lose."

[kas23]

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:10 AM, Zamboni said:

Yes. But it is well known that those known injuries are then heavily targeted by players when the recently injured return.

Watch players go after Eichel’s shoulders and maybe even his neck “on accident” in the corners in March. I bet it happens.

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Yeah, we’ll that’s really *****. We would expect that once they are fully healed, then these are not targetable. 

[PerreaultForever]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:59 AM, LGR4GM said:

How do they know they aren't trying to upgrade the goaltending?

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Well you don't obviously, but they didn't try when numerous goalies were obtainable (before the drafts) and right now I can't think of anyone of note who might even be available so I doubt it. 

I still do not believe the plan is to win now. This year is the end of the dismantle and the beginning of the rebuild. All they want this year is to create a foundation, create optimism, and have a stocked cupboard. Winning now would actually work against them. 

[Doohicksie]

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:04 AM, LGR4GM said:

Weeks

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He's coming out of retirement?

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:08 AM, kas23 said:

I really don’t like the NHL’s handling of injuries. I get it, privacy. But, these players aren’t exactly private citizens. It would be nice to know exactly what injuries they have and how long they will be out. 

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They stopped doing that because opponents would target the injuries when they returned.

[kas23]

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:11 AM, klos1963 said:

They are private citizens. 

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Of course. Should’ve been more clear for the concrete thinkers. They are playing a game that is sold to spectators to watch. These injuries are a direct result of said game. Spectators should have an idea of their work-related injuries. 

[SDS]

  On 11/14/2021 at 2:59 AM, LGR4GM said:

How do they know they aren't trying to upgrade the goaltending?

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Tuck this one away and use it when I say they are fine with their goaltending. 

i’m going to go ahead and make the radical suggestion that a Stanley Cup champion and a former USA hockey development coach know exactly what we have in goal and they have a reason to do what they’re doing. It may not be obvious to us, but I’m certain there’s a reason. 

  On 11/14/2021 at 3:08 AM, kas23 said:

I really don’t like the NHL’s handling of injuries. I get it, privacy. But, these players aren’t exactly private citizens. It would be nice to know exactly what injuries they have and how long they will be out. 

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