Huckleberry Posted November 1, 2021 Report Posted November 1, 2021 He is a good player, I wish he would remain a sabre for his hockey alone. We all know he is gone though and the locker room seems better of for it. Quote
MattPie Posted November 1, 2021 Report Posted November 1, 2021 Barring major injury again, I think he plays as long as he wants to. Even 75% or even 50% Jack Eichel is pretty good, and if he's up for taking the pay cut I can't imagine there's not a team that'd pay him (say) $4M/yr for second or third line. 1 Quote
inkman Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 Apparently he’s going to be 30-40% better. This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. 2 1 1 Quote
Taro T Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, inkman said: Apparently he’s going to be 30-40% better. This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. So, he's going to be Crosby or McDavid when healed? Doubt that highly. MacKinnon when healthy? That's who he's always been when healthy. 1 Quote
dudacek Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, inkman said: Apparently he’s going to be 30-40% better. This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. 1 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 Until that AD pops the first time and he thinks he's never gonna walk again... Quote
K-9 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 55 minutes ago, inkman said: Apparently he’s going to be 30-40% better. This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. Eichel was never not skating the entire time. When were those videos of him skating with his Bruins buddies in the summer? Let me know when he’s back in pads and actually doing hockey things. And 30%-40% better is the definition of pulling numbers out of your ass. Quote
K-9 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 59 minutes ago, Taro T said: So, he's going to be Crosby or McDavid when healed? Doubt that highly. MacKinnon when healthy? That's who he's always been when healthy. I’d argue he was a notch below MacKinnon. Don’t get me wrong, Eichel is an elite player in his own right, but he doesn’t attack the game with speed at every level like MacKinnon does. Quote
calti Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) Its a plausible idea ...But it would have to assume that Eichels neck condition has been there for most of his career and has been getting worse. And that the surgery solves that. Its possible. I think it would be a great surgical result if he could get back to 90% of what he was 2-3 yrs ago. We shall see.I hope he does well. Edited December 5, 2021 by calti 1 Quote
JohnC Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 Chicago's Tyler Johnson just had the same surgery that Jack had on his neck. https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/32779647/chicago-blackhawks-tyler-johnson-sidelined-neck-surgery Quote
Taro T Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, K-9 said: I’d argue he was a notch below MacKinnon. Don’t get me wrong, Eichel is an elite player in his own right, but he doesn’t attack the game with speed at every level like MacKinnon does. Perhaps. But when healthy he's pretty much matched or bettered MacKinnon's stats on an draft year/age based comparison on typically significantly worse teams. He's also had arguably the worst coaching in the league during the bulk of his tenure. 1 Quote
K-9 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, Taro T said: Perhaps. But when healthy he's pretty much matched or bettered MacKinnon's stats on an draft year/age based comparison on typically significantly worse teams. He's also had arguably the worst coaching in the league during the bulk of his tenure. From a statistical point of view, yes, I agree entirely. I’m referring to the way they play the game. And yeah, Eichel has done ok in spite of the coaches he’s had; a testament to his talent. Quote
bunomatic Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, inkman said: Apparently he’s going to be 30-40% better. This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. 82.7% of statistics are made up on the spot-Steven Wright Quote
mjd1001 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Posted December 5, 2021 2 hours ago, inkman said: Apparently he’s going to be 30-40% better. This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. That doesn't make sense at all. 30 to 40 percent better than what? BEtter than he is NOW? how good is he now? 30 to 40 percent better than when he was fully healthy? What, did they insert some bionic parts so he will be part superhuman cyborg now? I'd expect more from Shannon, but this seems like a fluff tweet that does nothing but sound silly with its point to be to pump up expectations by Jack..and even then I don't get it. 1 Quote
calti Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 5 hours ago, mjd1001 said: That doesn't make sense at all. 30 to 40 percent better than what? BEtter than he is NOW? how good is he now? 30 to 40 percent better than when he was fully healthy? What, did they insert some bionic parts so he will be part superhuman cyborg now? I'd expect more from Shannon, but this seems like a fluff tweet that does nothing but sound silly with its point to be to pump up expectations by Jack..and even then I don't get it. Of course you are correct.The headline and the actual statement are just gibberish. But i think we can assume that he meant 30-40% better than he has been over the past few seasons when it bothered him. Quote
Norcal Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 One of the comments suggested that 30-40% better is referring to his range of motion although the tweet isn't written that way and is confusing. It was also suggested that would be equal to about 5-7 degrees of motion each way. Someone who knows about those things can interpret that if they like. It made more sense than the original tweet to me. 1 Quote
pi2000 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Norcal said: One of the comments suggested that 30-40% better is referring to his range of motion although the tweet isn't written that way and is confusing. It was also suggested that would be equal to about 5-7 degrees of motion each way. Someone who knows about those things can interpret that if they like. It made more sense than the original tweet to me. 5 Quote
Gatorman0519 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 There is a good possibility Jack was right in his choice of surgery. It seems a better option than a fusion. Either way he wanted out. Even if healthy, imagine him on this team this year? OMG the sulking would be at an all time high and we still would be losing. He is going to have a spectacular career now that he is away from the most dysfunction organization in NHL history. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 30 or 40% more appreciated, because the media usually ignores our good players when we actually do, rarely, get them? I believe it. Quote
LabattBlue Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 Terrible by Shannon. WTF does it even mean? Quote
K-9 Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 22 hours ago, bunomatic said: 82.7% of statistics are made up on the spot-Steven Wright 1 Quote
Zamboni Posted December 6, 2021 Report Posted December 6, 2021 Damn Eichel is really testing his neck out quickly. 1 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted December 7, 2021 Report Posted December 7, 2021 Oh I think it likely he will be 30-40 or even 50% better, assuming he likes it there and actually gives full effort every night, which I don't believe he actually did here. And that way, when this contract expires he can pull a Tavares and go to Boston tweeting his childhood Bruins PJ picture. Quote
Curt Posted December 7, 2021 Report Posted December 7, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 1:49 PM, inkman said: Apparently he’s going to be 30-40% better. This might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. 30-40% better than last season, when he was hurt and kinda bad? 30-40% better than right now, when his is in the middle of rehab from major neck surgery? Yeah, sure, those would make sense. This tweet is sort of exemplifies why Twitter is terrible. It’s both sensationalist and uninformative. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted December 7, 2021 Report Posted December 7, 2021 So over 3 quarters of voters have Eichel playing *at least* for the duration of his contract. Not so bad an outlook if we trust the voters. Quote
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