GDT: Tampa Bay @ Buffalo - 10/25/2021 - 7pm EDT

[Indabuff]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

What's the matter? People too happy? Gotta nip that in the bud? Thankfully we still have the Eichel thing to bring us down. Here's something we can read at bedtime. @Hoss will love it.

I got sidetracked from the article for 20 minutes because of gesamtkunstwerk and another 10 for trying to correct auto-correct right here.

[That Aud Smell]

1 hour ago, Pimlach said:

Hagg and Pysck have been solid and steady together.  

Pysyk's defusion of that mini break away - by Stamkos? - was a thing of beauty.

[Thorner]

1 hour ago, PASabreFan said:

There's new grass on the field.

You may be right. 

But it's kinda the inverse of that "don't support the name on the back, support the crest on the front" ideal, innit?

It's not about the star players we send out who don't want to be here, the bad players we send out who do want to be here, or everything in between, up to and including the staffing. Even the Owners. Right? So, while according to said ideal, my lasting negative takeaway from, say, dealing my favourite player Eichel away should be negligible, as it's about the Crest, the inverse presents itself in not taking too much of a positive away from changing that grass on the field that needs changing.

My relationship with the Crest, during the last 10 years, is what my post was referring to. It did hurt me. You can't let a silly thing like sports upturn your life though, so distance does start to arise, for protection, but also borne out of logic. Just emotional distance, though, as mentioned. 

The Sabres could go 82-0 this year and I'm not sure I'd "feel" it. Sure as hell not as much as I felt 2006, and we lost. 

Like I said, for me, I think it'll just take some time, once they really have turned the corner, for the relationship to heal. This is just my experience though, hopefully this at least un-muddies the waters a bit on that front. 

 

[JoeSchmoe]

11 minutes ago, Thorny said:

My relationship with the Crest, during the last 10 years, is what my post was referring to. It did hurt me. You can't let a silly thing like sports upturn your life though, so distance does start to arise, for protection, but also borne out of logic. Just emotional distance, though, as mentioned. 

Over 23000 posts since 2015 and you don't want to watch the games? 🤯

[Thorner]

9 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Over 23000 posts since 2015 and you don't want to watch the games? 🤯

I've watched nearly every game. 

As I said, was talking more of an emotional disconnect, not physical/analytical. Talking about the team goes a long way towards bridging the gap. It's why the "you want to be negative/see the team fail" takes when they get thrown around, against whoever, never make sense to me. When poor results are predicted, it's a reflection of looking at past data, and attempting to extrapolate forward, not a means to an end in and of itself - it's non emotional. 

Edited October 26, 2021 by Thorny

[Doohicksie]

1 hour ago, K-9 said:

And it was funny to hear Hinostroza refer to Pysck as “Pisser” in his post game presser last night.

That was his nickname the first time through the Sabres as well.

[PromoTheRobot]

26 minutes ago, Thorny said:

You may be right. 

But it's kinda the inverse of that "don't support the name on the back, support the crest on the front" ideal, innit?

It's not about the star players we send out who don't want to be here, the bad players we send out who do want to be here, or everything in between, up to and including the staffing. Even the Owners. Right? So, while according to said ideal, my lasting negative takeaway from, say, dealing my favourite player Eichel away should be negligible, as it's about the Crest, the inverse presents itself in not taking too much of a positive away from changing that grass on the field that needs changing.

My relationship with the Crest, during the last 10 years, is what my post was referring to. It did hurt me. You can't let a silly thing like sports upturn your life though, so distance does start to arise, for protection, but also borne out of logic. Just emotional distance, though, as mentioned. 

The Sabres could go 82-0 this year and I'm not sure I'd "feel" it. Sure as hell not as much as I felt 2006, and we lost. 

Like I said, for me, I think it'll just take some time, once they really have turned the corner, for the relationship to heal. This is just my experience though, hopefully this at least un-muddies the waters a bit on that front. 

 

So, in all sincerity, why are you here? If your heart was broken, why keep hanging out with your exes friends? I totally don't get it. We have a group here at SabreSpace, a number of which don't seem to watch the team or care how they play. Are they here for the apocalypse that hasn't yet materialized?

11 minutes ago, Thorny said:

I've watched nearly every game. 

As I said, was talking more of an emotional disconnect, not physical/analytical. Talking about the team goes a long way towards bridging the gap. It's why the "you want to be negative/see the team fail" takes when they get thrown around, against whoever, never make sense to me. When poor results are predicted, it's a reflection of looking at past data, and attempting to extrapolate forward, not a means to an end in and of itself - it's non emotional. 

"Past performance is no guarantee of future results."

Edited October 26, 2021 by PromoTheRobot

[JoeSchmoe]

Since Granato took over, the team is playing really fun to watch hockey. There are a lot of good young kids to root for, and more in the system.

If you're not happy yet, you're doing it wrong.

[Thorner]

4 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

So, in all sincerity, why are you here? If your heart was broken, why keep hanging out with your exes friends? I totally don't get it. We have a group here at SabreSpace, a number of which don't seem to watch the team or care how they play. Are they here for the apocalypse that hasn't yet materialized?

"Past performance is no guarantee of future results."

Also in sincerity, if that's how you interpreted my post and that's what you came away with, I wouldn't really know where to start when attempting to clarify. 

As for the bold, "those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it derpedeeeeedo" There's a quote for everything - and that wasn't my point, anyways. Of course the past doesn't guarantee future results. When did anyone GUARANTEE anything? As mentioned, it's predictions offered. My contention wouldn't be with being proven incorrect, thus saying "you may be right", it's a contention with other posters, such as yourself, respectfully, claiming this analysis to be the product of "wanting the team to be bad", which you've alluded to several times, to several posters. 

It's gatekeeping. Gatekeeping still sucks. 

2 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said:

Since Granato took over, the team is playing really fun to watch hockey. There are a lot of good young kids to root for, and more in the system.

If you're not happy yet, you're doing it wrong.

Ernie: What's the word of the day, Bert?

[PromoTheRobot]

2 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Also in sincerity, if that's how you interpreted my post and that's what you came away with, I wouldn't really know where to start when attempting to clarify. 

As for the bold, "those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it derpedeeeeedo" There's a quote for everything - and that wasn't my point, anyways. Of course the past doesn't guarantee future results. When did anyone GUARANTEE anything? As mentioned, it's predictions offered. My contention wouldn't be with being proven incorrect, thus saying "you may be right", it's a contention with other posters, such as yourself, respectfully, claiming this analysis to be the product of "wanting the team to be bad", which you've alluded to several times, to several posters. 

It's gatekeeping. Gatekeeping still sucks. 

Ernie: What's the word of the day, Bert?

I always thought winning fixes everything. Now it's not enough to win, make an effort every night and play as a team. Now we need memory wipes.

[inkman]

Just now, PromoTheRobot said:

I always thought winning fixes everything. Now it's not enough to win, make an effort every night and play as a team. Now we need memory wipes.

I erase a small part of my brain every night 

[Stoner]

I'm almost hesitant to post this in case DD has some things going on. I felt not scorn but pity for his call last night. This was a huge win and he wasn't present. Just a "he scores" and silence. Lots of empty spots of five seconds or more. Letting moments speak for themselves can be good, but the crowd noise wasn't there to make it work.

[Doohicksie]

4 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

I'm almost hesitant to post this in case DD has some things going on. I felt not scorn but pity for his call last night. This was a huge win and he wasn't present. Just a "he scores" and silence. Lots of empty spots of five seconds or more. Letting moments speak for themselves can be good, but the crowd noise wasn't there to make it work.

Oh I think he's just nursing a cold.  If it's anything like the one I'm just getting over, the 5 second pauses are him cutting his mic to cough.  The quality of his voice is different, as if he's not too far from laryngitis.

And in a way, the "deconstructed" Dan Dunleavy, once I got used to him, wasn't half bad.

[Stoner]

1 minute ago, The Ghost of Yuri said:

Oh I think he's just nursing a cold.  If it's anything like the one I'm just getting over, the 5 second pauses are him cutting his mic to cough.  The quality of his voice is different, as if he's not too far from laryngitis.

Called from home then?

[Norcal]

10 minutes ago, inkman said:

I erase a small part of my brain every night 

Me too, and have for years

[SDS]

32 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

So, in all sincerity, why are you here? If your heart was broken, why keep hanging out with your exes friends? I totally don't get it. We have a group here at SabreSpace, a number of which don't seem to watch the team or care how they play. Are they here for the apocalypse that hasn't yet materialized?

"Past performance is no guarantee of future results."

What exactly is your goal here?

Posters here are neither compelled nor required to justify their viewing habits nor their emotional attachment to the team to anyone. Experience the team the way you wish. Our only requirement here is to be a decent community member. Both WildCard and Thorny completely fit that bill. 

[Thorner]

17 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I always thought winning fixes everything. Now it's not enough to win, make an effort every night and play as a team. Now we need memory wipes.

I am taking enjoyment from the victories. The amount of joy you take is generally reciprocal - my point is that I am unable to invest to the same extent emotionally due to a strained emotional relationship with my beloved team. I am simply saying I think it will take a while before I feel truly invested again like I did before. I am happy for you, as a fan, if you are so unblemished, in a sporting sense, from the last decade so as for these 4 victories to provide an experience tantamount to dubs in years past. And I mean that. I don't seek to belittle your experience as a fan, I don't see a reason my experience....my grand motives when it comes to supporting the team...should be belittled/questioned - don't understand it. 

The fact that someone has posted over 20 000 times in the midst of the greatest dearth in franchise history can't point to the depth of my fandom for this team, instead, I'm apparently not doing it properly. 

Edited October 26, 2021 by Thorny
It points to me not having enough of a life, yes, re 20 000

[Doohicksie]

1 minute ago, PASabreFan said:

Called from home then?

Possibly.  I tested negative for Covid and I've been on antibiotics for a week so I'm not contagious.  If DD is in a similar state he'd be safe to go to the rink.  (I tell those around me that since I'm on antibiotics, any phlegm I cough up is benign.)

[Doohicksie]

Just now, Thorny said:

It points to me not having enough of a life, yes. 

Eh.  Just do you.  We all have different stuff going on (and that's directed at no one and everyone still hanging around in this thread).

[dudacek]

38 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

So, in all sincerity, why are you here? If your heart was broken, why keep hanging out with your exes friends? I totally don't get it. We have a group here at SabreSpace, a number of which don't seem to watch the team or care how they play. Are they here for the apocalypse that hasn't yet materialized?

"Past performance is no guarantee of future results."

His position has been very clearly spelled out for any one who is genuinely interested in listening.

In all sincerity, I don’t think your question is sincere at all.

Edited October 26, 2021 by dudacek

[PromoTheRobot]

7 minutes ago, dudacek said:

His position has been very clearly spelled out for any one who is genuinely interested in listening.

In all sincerity, I don’t think your question is sincere at all.

17 minutes ago, SDS said:

What exactly is your goal here?

Posters here are neither compelled nor required to justify their viewing habits nor their emotional attachment to the team to anyone. Experience the team the way you wish. Our only requirement here is to be a decent community member. Both WildCard and Thorny completely fit that bill. 

Point taken. We're all here for different reasons.

[That Aud Smell]

29 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

I'm almost hesitant to post this in case DD has some things going on. I felt not scorn but pity for his call last night. This was a huge win and he wasn't present. Just a "he scores" and silence. Lots of empty spots of five seconds or more. Letting moments speak for themselves can be good, but the crowd noise wasn't there to make it work.

24 minutes ago, The Ghost of Yuri said:

Oh I think he's just nursing a cold.  If it's anything like the one I'm just getting over, the 5 second pauses are him cutting his mic to cough.  The quality of his voice is different, as if he's not too far from laryngitis.

And in a way, the "deconstructed" Dan Dunleavy, once I got used to him, wasn't half bad.

He was having a rough go of it. I started out with radio, and thought they had someone filling in - didn't even recognize his voice.

I do wonder about the long-term future. He's a nice man, and a capable broadcaster. He's just not what I want for the voice of the team.

I mean - we're already enduring John "Milquetoast" Murphy for the Bills. Can't we get someone dynamic for the Sabres?

[Doohicksie]

29 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

I do wonder about the long-term future. He's a nice man, and a capable broadcaster. He's just not what I want for the voice of the team.

Especially yesterday's voice.  Generally though I think he's been getting better.  His calls about goals are more definitive anyway.  I kind of feel like the play-by-play voice isn't why I watch the games; I'm there for the hockey.  RJ is an institution and chances are whoever replaces him will never seem adequate.  Big shoes to fill and all that.  But Dunleavy is.... okay.  For now.  And like the rest of the team I think he's improving.

Edited October 26, 2021 by The Ghost of Yuri

[Thorner]

Take this with a grain of salt as, like I said, I missed yesterday's game (I work nights so the games are always really late for me), but looking at the highlights, Dan did have one call I thought he sounded pretty into it, the Caggiula goal:

 

He does go silent after the call, but it's his traditional "long note hold". But it edits away to Rob Ray erroring in identifying a player quite quickly, right after Dan is still pausing for the goal horn, so others will know if Dan said anything else. 

His voice does sound off, def. 

Edited October 26, 2021 by Thorny

[Radar]

25 minutes ago, Thorny said:

I am taking enjoyment from the victories. The amount of joy you take is generally reciprocal - my point is that I am unable to invest to the same extent emotionally due to a strained emotional relationship with my beloved team. I am simply saying I think it will take a while before I feel truly invested again like I did before. I am happy for you, as a fan, if you are so unblemished, in a sporting sense, from the last decade so as for these 4 victories to provide an experience tantamount to dubs in years past. And I mean that. I don't seek to belittle your experience as a fan, I don't see a reason my experience....my grand motives when it comes to supporting the team...should be belittled/questioned - don't understand it. 

The fact that someone has posted over 20 000 times in the midst of the greatest dearth in franchise history can't point to the depth of my fandom for this team, instead, I'm apparently not doing it properly. 

Don't know how old you are, Thorny but having lived through this franchise since it's inception I'm not sure if it's my age (78) or the team that's caused my decreased emotional energy but it's not as high as it was in the 70's that's for sure. Feel your pain, my friend.