GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Doohickie said: So when you said - It's not like the surgery is brand new.... has been successfully performed on Peyton, where you talking about the ADR or the ACDF? I'm confused. ACDF, which is the upgrade from standard fusion surgery. I know Jack wants ADR, but I don’t think it’s FD approved here for use in neck surgery. 2 Quote
Pimlach Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) For sure the doctors now know how much healing came from rest and rehab. They must believe that they have reached a new decision point. If rest and rehab did not ger the result they expected then a next step has to happen. The Sabres (doctors and FO) are probably just following a logical process. Edited September 21, 2021 by Pimlach 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Pimlach said: For sure the doctors now know how much healing came from rest and rehab. They must belive that they have reached a new decision point. If rest and rehab did not ger the result they expected then a next step has to happen. The Sabres (doctors and FO) are probably just following a logical process. I agree I don’t think this “change” has anything to do with Jack’s agent or a softening of the Sabres position. It has to do with insurance money and their willingness to explore the best options to get Jack on the ice to avoid a huge claim. Quote
Thorner Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 So, no progress after all. Lol 1 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Thorny said: So, no progress after all. Lol Quote
K-9 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 Looks like it’s the ACDF or bust, Johnny. Embrace it. 1 Quote
Curt Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 22 hours ago, Brawndo said: Per Darren Dreger on the Ray and Dregs Podcast Pat Brisson has made progress with Kevyn Adams regarding Jack having the Artificial Disc Replacement. Jack is seeing doctors on the West Coast it is felt that if these doctors do agree that the ADR is the way to proceed that Jack will have this procedure done. 52 minutes ago, Brawndo said: I swear, Dreger is useless. 7 Quote
K-9 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Curt said: I swear, Dreger is useless. Yep. Tits on a bull. Quote
SwampD Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Curt said: I swear, Dreger is useless. Three sentences and he can't even proofread it. Quote
Brawndo Posted September 21, 2021 Author Report Posted September 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Curt said: I swear, Dreger is useless. His main source of information is agents, while Friedman talks to both Front Offices and Agents. Dreger getting a phone call from the Sabres FO correcting His Report is not surprising. 4 1 Quote
nfreeman Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 Dreger's tweet illustrates that some people just do not admit mistakes and like to use words like "clarify" in pretending that they weren't simply wrong previously. 2 Quote
Digger Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: I swear, Dreger is useless. There's a lot of that going around with regards to Eichel, no substance to the post other than guessing as to what may be reasonable. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 20 hours ago, Weave said: The insurance company may be the real blocking point. This is something I wish was reported on more. 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 FYI - FROM USC Spine center https://www.uscspine.com/treatement-options/back-treatment/artificial-disc-replacement-adr/ Quote Artificial Disc Replacement (ADR) Overview and Indications Artificial disc replacement (ADR) is newer type of spinal disc procedure that utilizes an anterior (front – through the abdominal region) approach to replace a painful, arthritic, worn-out intervertebral disc of the lumbar spine with a metal and plastic prosthesis (artificial disc). Currently, the artificial disc replacement is only FDA-approved in the United States for use in the lumbar (low back) region, although many products are currently being studied for use in the cervical (neck) region. Artificial disc replacement is primarily considered for patients with isolated 1-level (one disc only) degenerative disc disease. Prior to the development of ADR, spinal fusion was the principal treatment for painful degenerative disc disease that failed to improve with nonoperative management. ADR is generally NOT recommended for patients with spinal fractures, instability, neurologic compression, or multiple level degenerative disc disease – spinal fusion remains the treatment of choice for these conditions. The advantages of ADR include a faster recovery time than spinal fusion and preserved motion at the disc level. The theoretical long-term advantage of ADR, which remains unproven, is the possibility of decreased adjacent level stress and arthritis compared with spinal fusion. If ADR isn't FDA approved for neck surgery, why has this even been an issue? Quote
K-9 Posted September 21, 2021 Report Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: FYI - FROM USC Spine center https://www.uscspine.com/treatement-options/back-treatment/artificial-disc-replacement-adr/ If ADR isn't FDA approved for neck surgery, why has this even been an issue? I think that’s old information. Cervical artificial disc replacement was approved in 2007 by the FDA. https://www.spine.md/cervical-artificial-disc-replacement/ Edited September 21, 2021 by K-9 Quote
calti Posted September 22, 2021 Report Posted September 22, 2021 22 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: He had ACDF, which is the removal of the bad disk, replacing it with a bone graft which then fuses over time. which is fusion Quote
MattPie Posted September 22, 2021 Report Posted September 22, 2021 4 hours ago, K-9 said: I think that’s old information. Cervical artificial disc replacement was approved in 2007 by the FDA. https://www.spine.md/cervical-artificial-disc-replacement/ But has never been used on a pro hockey player or something, isn't that the rub? 1 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted September 22, 2021 Report Posted September 22, 2021 If playing in the olympics was so important, maybe he and his agents should have worked to get this done earlier. 6 Quote
Doohicksie Posted September 22, 2021 Report Posted September 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, Brawndo said: 1 3 Quote
K-9 Posted September 22, 2021 Report Posted September 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Johnny is unhappy? Shocking news! He’s always been the picture of contentment. 1 1 Quote
Doohicksie Posted September 22, 2021 Report Posted September 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, Pimlach said: Oh ginger snap! Quote
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