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Kevyn Adams Discloses in his Presser that Eichel is No Longer the Buffalo Sabres Captain

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  On 9/23/2021 at 5:59 PM, GASabresIUFAN said:

Rebuild vs Tank.  We are rebuilding in general.  However, KA is clearly tanking this season in order to draft a replacement for Eichel.  No other way to explain pivoting from Ullmark to Anderson/Dell.  This is going from playoff caliber goaltending to AHL level goaltending.

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You are not helping me in dealing with our friend here ... lol!!

  On 9/23/2021 at 6:14 PM, darksabre said:

I firmly believe they expected to sign Ullmark and he pulled the rug out from under them. I like Linus, but he kinda effed the Sabres.

They also aren't looking to "replace Eichel". They've already done so. They believe Cozens is going to be the number 1 center going forward. It could not be more clear.

They will be bad this year, and will probably pick high. But there's no way picking 1st overall is the plan. It's just not entirely out of the question looking at where the roster is right now. The "let the kids drive it" philosophy will probably result in a bad team, but not on purpose. It's just the development philosophy they've agreed on.

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You are definitely helping me deal with out resident tankster ... lol!!

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  On 9/23/2021 at 6:41 PM, Buffalonill said:

With this years draft class with  Franchise changing center and superstars do everything possible  to be last 

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They did that in 2015 and look were it got us.

The cherry on top was they tried it out in 2014 and look where that got us.

Once again, with emphasis ... BIGGEST MISTAKE EVER!!

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more goodly words ...
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Ultimately Eichel did not want to be here. KA is repeating that mantra over and over about players “wanting to be here”. The injury was a perfect excuse to get out of town like several of the others. This is a unique situation where an established franchise needs a complete reboot. 

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  On 9/23/2021 at 6:56 PM, dudacek said:

Agree wholeheartedly on the first. Disagree on the 2nd.

As for the 3rd, I don’t think they are planning to finish last the way Tim Murray was, but they are expecting to be on the running and to have shot at a centre at least as good as Cozens in the process.

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Sure. We're in a bit of a gray area here. People have gotten very obsessed with throwing the work tank around whenever a team looks like it'll be bad. This isn't a tank in the traditional sense, but it's not like they've got a team assembled that is unlikely to finish in the bottom 6.

It's not a tank, they just aren't planning to be very good. The pressure is off the kids in this way. Fans won't be cheering for them to lose (I hope...) but there won't be an expectation that they'll win either. Just show up and put in the work.

It'll be a lost season for anyone who expects the playoffs, and so people will just call it a tank instead I guess.

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:46 PM, SwampD said:

No. It's not.

And what does that second line even mean?

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It's hopeless, Swamp.  This guy is just the bees knees.  

I think it's not a very goodly way to say that the Sabres will have a great tankfest this season and will draft an elite centre at the top of the draft and if that does not work the Sabres can try again next season.

*****!!

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:48 PM, Buffalonill said:

How do you bring elite talent?  You have to draft and develop 

That 2022,2023 draft is a do over for 2014-2015

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25th, 25th, 45th

Those are the draft positions of the best line in hockey.

You draft well throughout all rounds and develop well.

You don't get worse to get better. Period. And you certainly don't keep trying that when it doesn't work time after time. That's just ***** stupid.

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:13 PM, Gatorman0519 said:

Ultimately Eichel did not want to be here. KA is repeating that mantra over and over about players “wanting to be here”. The injury was a perfect excuse to get out of town like several of the others. This is a unique situation where an established franchise needs a complete reboot. 

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Still believe it was Adams who didn't want Eichel here & then Jack decided Kevyn was onto something there.

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:55 PM, SwampD said:

25th, 25th, 45th

Those are the draft positions of the best line in hockey.

You draft well throughout all rounds and develop well.

You don't get worse to get better. Period. And you certainly don't keep trying that when it doesn't work time after time. That's just ***** stupid.

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Tell that to avs,pens, kings, hawks ,lightning,leafs 

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:55 PM, SwampD said:

25th, 25th, 45th

Those are the draft positions of the best line in hockey.

You draft well throughout all rounds and develop well.

You don't get worse to get better. Period. And you certainly don't keep trying that when it doesn't work time after time. That's just ***** stupid.

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What's the line?

Awesome post.

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:13 PM, Gatorman0519 said:

Ultimately Eichel did not want to be here. KA is repeating that mantra over and over about players “wanting to be here”. The injury was a perfect excuse to get out of town like several of the others. This is a unique situation where an established franchise needs a complete reboot. 

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An established franchise?  31 other teams are relatively established except the Kraken.  

If you're a career-minded employee and your company is bottom quartile in their industry, should you stick around and miss out on being successful elsewhere?

 

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:58 PM, Buffalonill said:

Tell that to avs,pens, kings, hawks ,lightning,leafs 

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Leafs still haven't won a playoff series and I notice that Edmonton is not on that list. Curious. In fact, the list of teams that didn't make your list is way longer.

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  On 9/23/2021 at 8:04 PM, SwampD said:

Leafs still haven't won a playoff series and I notice that Edmonton is not on that list. Curious. In fact, the list of teams that didn't make your list is way longer.

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He said "You don't get worse to get better. Period" 

 

 

I could put Edmonton but they're just as  Dysfunctional as us 

 

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  On 9/23/2021 at 7:58 PM, Taro T said:

Still believe it was Adams who didn't want Eichel here & then Jack decided Kevyn was onto something there.

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Why do you suppose Adams didn’t want Eichel here? What occurred that prompted this view of the best player on the team? 

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  On 9/23/2021 at 8:35 PM, K-9 said:

Why do you suppose Adams didn’t want Eichel here? What occurred that prompted this view of the best player on the team? 

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Not sure why but that's what's been presented by usually reliable sources pretty much since last fall.  Guess it's a combination of the injury history & attitude.  Remember, though Adams wasn't a part of the team until last summer, he was around it for a long time.

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  On 9/23/2021 at 8:51 PM, Taro T said:

Not sure why but that's what's been presented by usually reliable sources pretty much since last fall.  Guess it's a combination of the injury history & attitude.  Remember, though Adams wasn't a part of the team until last summer, he was around it for a long time.

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Makes sense that Adams, being able to observe interactions among players, coaches, etc. over the years that he could have seen something he didn’t like.

Brian Gionta was on a podcast a couple months ago and he was talking about the kind of people that were around the building and mentioned that some guys were just not good professionals, particularly when it came to respect for the trainers, equipment managers, various other building personnel,etc. Said they were complete pricks towards people at times. I assumed he was talking about the Kanes and Bogos of the world, but maybe it was other players as well. 

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  On 9/23/2021 at 8:51 PM, Taro T said:

Not sure why but that's what's been presented by usually reliable sources pretty much since last fall.  Guess it's a combination of the injury history & attitude.  Remember, though Adams wasn't a part of the team until last summer, he was around it for a long time.

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This is why I have maintained that if Jack is traded it will be because management wants him gone, not because he wants out.

He might want out... but they've never been obligated to do that for him...

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