Sabres hosting outdoor game in Hamilton Ont.

[pastajoe]

 

[Sabres Fan in NS]

2 minutes ago, pastajoe said:

 

Where’s the poop?

[drnkirishone]

9 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

Where’s the poop?

hopefully in the toilet. unless you was raised in a barn!

[sabresparaavida]

15 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

Where’s the poop?

It’s actually happening though, I’ve known for a few weeks

[Sabres Fan in NS]

1 minute ago, sabresparaavida said:

It’s actually happening though, I’ve known for a few weeks

Yup.

It just took forever for the details (poop) to upload.

 I will ask @PASabreFan … is that the whole poop?

😎👀

[pastajoe]

1 hour ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

Nice that we are hosting a Leafs home game for them.

Pegulas screwing season ticket holders by taking away one of the games they can make the most money on by selling tickets to Leafs fans.

[Pimlach]

So we are giving away a home game to a division rival?   If we were a competitive contender in our division this would be really stupid.   This is a Money grab.  I hate this.  
 

The Pegula’s are the worst.  What are they doing?   How does this get the Buffalo fan base back?  

[Pimlach]

11 hours ago, pastajoe said:

Pegulas screwing season ticket holders by taking away one of the games they can make the most money on by selling tickets to Leafs fans.

A terrible practice that is now common for fans a bottom feeder.  I remember when a Leafs game ticket was golden.  They always had a large contingent of fans in the Aud anyway, but never close to a majorly and the thought of selling Your Leafs Game ticket to their fans was just a foreign concept.  
 

The pride in this team has been sucked out.  It’s sad.  I hate this idea of giving away a home game.  Just like the Bills playing “home” games in Toronto.  

Loyalty, Honor and Tradition.  Do they matter any more? 

Edited August 28, 2021 by Pimlach

[Sabres Fan in NS]

39 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

So we are giving away a home game to a division rival?   If we were a competitive contender in our division this would be really stupid.   This is a Money grab.  I hate this.  
 

The Pegula’s are the worst.  What are they doing?   How does this get the Buffalo fan base back?  

I have no problem with this game.  There are plenty of Sabre fans in Southern Ontario, especially Niagara, which technically starts in Hamilton.  I bet there are more Sabre fans in Hamilton than Leaf fans.  Hamiltonians hate everything about The Great Satan.

[Trettioåtta]

Don't Leafs fans come in droves to Buffalo home games anyway?

[Pimlach]

1 minute ago, New Scotland (NS) said:

I have no problem with this game.  There are plenty of Sabre fans in Southern Ontario, especially Niagara, which technically starts in Hamilton.  I bet there are more Sabre fans in Hamilton than Leaf fans.  Hamiltonians hate everything about The Great Satan.

Sure.  Then come to Buffalo, enjoy the game, and spend some time in our city.  Most Hamilton fans (Hamiltonians) would prefer that.  They are going to get gouged on prices.  
 

 

[JohnC]

45 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

So we are giving away a home game to a division rival?   If we were a competitive contender in our division this would be really stupid.   This is a Money grab.  I hate this.  
 

The Pegula’s are the worst.  What are they doing?   How does this get the Buffalo fan base back?  

Whether this game is outdoors in Canada or inside the arena in Buffalo it has little to do with getting the withered fan base back. Putting a credible and entertaining team back on the ice is the solution to regenerating interest in this team. That's the challenge. Everything else is inconsequential. 

[Pimlach]

4 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said:

Don't Leafs fans come in droves to Buffalo home games anyway?

Yes.  What started at about 20% in the 70’s when every game was sold out, has turned into a majority of Leafs fans in our building.  The Sabres have had a few  periods of bad ownership after the original owners sold the team.  The current owners are overseeing a 10+ year historic playoff drought.   Sabres fans are upset and many don’t watch the games.   Season tickets, once impossible to get, are now easy to get.  The team is now so bad no one wants 41 games, Ir even 20.  
 

Many Sabres fans sell their tickets to Leafs fan for big profits rather than go and support a team that does not contend. This creates a road game atmosphere in our home rink.   This is a terrible practice.   Some Canadians are Sabres fans but most are not.  
 

The  Sabres are 50 years old and they don’t need promotion in Hamilton.  This is a money grab.  The Pegula’s will set the ticket prices like they are in Toronto and make a lot of money.  They should focus on putting a good hockey team in Buffalo and then they will sell out every night.  
 

 

[inkman]

Can you really host a game that’s not at your home?  The NHL is stupid. 

[Pimlach]

13 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Whether this game is outdoors in Canada or inside the arena in Buffalo it has little to do with getting the withered fan base back. Putting a credible and entertaining team back on the ice is the solution to regenerating interest in this team. That's the challenge. Everything else is inconsequential. 

Maybe so. If we were equal to Toronto on the ice how would you feel about giving away a home game?  If the game had an impact in the standings would it still be ok?  
 

Just because we are not competitive and the Pegula’s are killing hockey in WNY, it is ok for them to make a ton of money exploiting another market?   
 

[Curt]

Could this game not have been held in Buffalo?

Yeah, giving away a home game sucks from the Sabres-centric perspective, but there is something that I think is way more important here.

Buffalo contributes tax money to build professional sports arenas.  Then that team goes and hosts a major event in another city?  All the businesses of Buffalo who would have benefited from the major event that is an outdoor game deserve much better.

[Pimlach]

7 minutes ago, inkman said:

Can you really host a game that’s not at your home?  The NHL is stupid. 

No, you can’t really host it.  But you can sell a home game for money.  Pegula’s are essentially doing what some Sabres fans do when the leafs come to town.   They just came up with legal scalping.  

[DarthEbriate]

Rich Stadium capacity 72,000. Tim Hortons Field capacity 24,000. They'll need to set the ticket value 3x higher to turn the same profit, especially since they'll need to rent THF instead of just using their own Bills Stadium. I wonder when we'll see what other compensation the Pegulas are getting to go to Hamilton.

Now, if they absolutely need an outdoor game with Toronto, how about a home-and-home at THF? And then the next season a home-and-home at Ralph Wilson Stadium? It seems wasteful to go through all the setup to only use the rink for 1 NHL game. Or set it up and then host a few games for a week in your NFL stadium against some division rivals. Then the next season, go do the same thing in Boston, then Toronto, etc. Just roll it around the northern end of the division in February.

[DarthEbriate]

1 minute ago, Pimlach said:

No, you can’t really host it.  But you can sell a home game for money.  Pegula’s are essentially doing what some Sabres fans do when the leafs come to town.   They just came up with legal scalping.  

You get the money to give up the home location and you get last line change. It's the best of both worlds. 😇🍺

[SwampD]

Sabres new hometown?

[JohnC]

9 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Maybe so. If we were equal to Toronto on the ice how would you feel about giving away a home game?  If the game had an impact in the standings would it still be ok?  
 

Just because we are not competitive and the Pegula’s are killing hockey in WNY, it is ok for them to make a ton of money exploiting another market?   
 

Hamilton, Ontario is part of the Sabre market. It might overlap with the Toronto market but people from Hamilton do follow and attend games in Buffalo. 

Anyone who is foolish enough to buy a Sabre season ticket for the garbage product on the ice will again learn that they will be challenged to give away tickets to games that they can't attend. Playing one outside game in Hamilton is not going to change that embarrassing fact. 

The Toronto games played in Buffalo are to a large extent populated with Toronto fans who are willing to play premium prices (that are still less than their home game tickets). So there will be a larger outdoor venue that will increase the paltry revenue that the Buffalo fans generate for home games. 

Again, this is an inconsequential one game issue that has little to do with the fanbase's  lack of interest in a team that has been for a long time uninteresting. The meaningful issue is assembling a team that can compete and be entertaining. To that issue there is no quick or easy solution. Everything else is BS!  

[TheAud]

15 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said:

Rich Stadium capacity 72,000. Tim Hortons Field capacity 24,000. They'll need to set the ticket value 3x higher to turn the same profit, especially since they'll need to rent THF instead of just using their own Bills Stadium. I wonder when we'll see what other compensation the Pegulas are getting to go to Hamilton.

Now, if they absolutely need an outdoor game with Toronto, how about a home-and-home at THF? And then the next season a home-and-home at Ralph Wilson Stadium? It seems wasteful to go through all the setup to only use the rink for 1 NHL game. Or set it up and then host a few games for a week in your NFL stadium against some division rivals. Then the next season, go do the same thing in Boston, then Toronto, etc. Just roll it around the northern end of the division in February.

They have to rent "Rich Stadium" from the owner, Erie County. The Bills have a lease to play football games there. 

Who knows if travel between the US and Canada will be normalized for fans by then. This could be the only opportunity Canadian Sabres fans have to see the team live.  Lucky for them, it's only one game unlike American fans that could have to see them 40 times...

[Pimlach]

3 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Hamilton, Ontario is part of the Sabre market. It might overlap with the Toronto market but people from Hamilton do follow and attend games in Buffalo. 

Anyone who is foolish enough to buy a Sabre season ticket for the garbage product on the ice will again learn that they will be challenged to give away tickets to games that they can't attend. Playing one outside game in Hamilton is not going to change that embarrassing fact. 

The Toronto games played in Buffalo are to a large extent populated with Toronto fans who are willing to play premium prices (that are still less than their home game tickets). So there will be a larger outdoor venue that will increase the paltry revenue that the Buffalo fans generate for home games. 

Again, this is an inconsequential one game issue that has little to do with the fanbase's  lack of interest in a team that has been for a long time uninteresting. The meaningful issue is assembling a team that can compete and be entertaining. To that issue there is no quick or easy solution. Everything else is BS!  

Ok Mr Pegula.  Thank you.  

[Curt]

25 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Hamilton, Ontario is part of the Sabre market. It might overlap with the Toronto market but people from Hamilton do follow and attend games in Buffalo. 

Anyone who is foolish enough to buy a Sabre season ticket for the garbage product on the ice will again learn that they will be challenged to give away tickets to games that they can't attend. Playing one outside game in Hamilton is not going to change that embarrassing fact. 

The Toronto games played in Buffalo are to a large extent populated with Toronto fans who are willing to play premium prices (that are still less than their home game tickets). So there will be a larger outdoor venue that will increase the paltry revenue that the Buffalo fans generate for home games. 

Again, this is an inconsequential one game issue that has little to do with the fanbase's  lack of interest in a team that has been for a long time uninteresting. The meaningful issue is assembling a team that can compete and be entertaining. To that issue there is no quick or easy solution. Everything else is BS!  

What about the effect on the city of Buffalo?  They support the Sabres financially, I don’t think it’s right that they miss out on the benefit of everything that comes with a big outdoor game event.

[Weave]

47 minutes ago, SwampD said:

Sabres new hometown?

#Testrun