Analytics on the new guys

[GASabresIUFAN]

Can one of our analytics experts give us a rundown on the new guys.  I’m curious on how Pysyk, Hagg and Butcher are the D zone and how best to utilize Hinostroza.  Thanks

[French Collection]

I am no analytics guy but they should trade a LHD to Seattle for Borgen to get a better balance.

Add some grit to the D as well.

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, French Collection said:

I am no analytics guy but they should trade a LHD to Seattle for Borgen to get a better balance.

Add some grit to the D as well.

Don't have to trade for him.  If Sea tries to send him down we get first dibs on a waiver claim.  Right now I'd argue he is the 9th best D they have.  

[Zamboni]

55 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Don't have to trade for him.  If Sea tries to send him down we get first dibs on a waiver claim.  Right now I'd argue he is the 9th best D they have.  

9th? Really!  Yikes. Yea he may be waived.

[Radar]

2 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Don't have to trade for him.  If Sea tries to send him down we get first dibs on a waiver claim.  Right now I'd argue he is the 9th best D they have.  

My guess is they would trade him for anything before waiving him. Pretty sure they could get something for him.

[GASabresIUFAN]

2 minutes ago, Radar said:

My guess is they would trade him for anything before waiving him. Pretty sure they could get something for him.

He’s the 9th best D on a expansion team.  He is a 24 year old D with 14 games of NHL experience with zero points in those games and couldn’t earn a permanent role on the worst team in the NHL.  How much do you think his trade value is?  A 5th? Less?  They also need depth in the AHL.  I can see them trying to sneak him down instead of trading him.

[Radar]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He’s the 9th best D on a expansion team.  He is a 24 year old D with 14 games of NHL experience with zero points in those games and couldn’t earn a permanent role on the worst team in the NHL.  How much do you think his trade value is?  A 5th? Less?  They also need depth in the AHL.  I can see them trying to sneak him down instead of trading him.

A fifth is better than losing him on waivers. Sure we would claim him and if not us some team would. He can't go to the AHL without clearing waivers.

[Norcal]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He’s the 9th best D on a expansion team.  He is a 24 year old D with 14 games of NHL experience with zero points in those games and couldn’t earn a permanent role on the worst team in the NHL.  How much do you think his trade value is?  A 5th? Less?  They also need depth in the AHL.  I can see them trying to sneak him down instead of trading him.

Hes a big young guy who can beat someone's ass when needed and is highly unproven in the NHL.

That doesn't mean he hasn't been effective in larger roles in the ahl and college.

The guy has value, I'm betting more than you think. 

[Zamboni]

8 minutes ago, Norcal said:

Hes a big young guy who can beat someone's ass when needed and is highly unproven in the NHL.

That doesn't mean he hasn't been effective in larger roles in the ahl and college.

The guy has value, I'm betting more than you think. 

I think that description is a little off. At 24 I wouldn’t call him “young” anymore. In hockey years. 
 

“beat someone’s ass” makes it sound like he’s a proven “tough guy”. I think a better way to say it is … on occasion he’s not against dropping the gloves with someone near his weight class. 
 

I don’t think he would drop the gloves every game, (not that it’s needed) or drop the gloves with the Reaves, or Wilson’s of the league.

 

I’d like to see Borgen back in the mix, but anything richer than a 5th, is too much IMO.

[Norcal]

1 minute ago, Zamboni said:

I think that description is a little off. At 24 I wouldn’t call him “young” anymore. In hockey years. 
 

“beat someone’s ass” makes it sound like he’s a proven “tough guy”. I think a better way to say it is … on occasion he’s not against dropping the gloves with someone near his weight class. 
 

I don’t think he would drop the gloves every game, (not that it’s needed) or drop the gloves with the Reaves, or Wilson’s of the league.

 

I’d like to see Borgen back in the mix, but anything richer than a 5th, is too much IMO.

I'm not declaring him the next tough guy of the league, just someone who is willing and able if needed, and he is still "young" in terms of defensive development years IMO.

He didn't look out of place on the NHL and handled himself well in the AHL so some team will give him an opportunity I don't necessarily think it'll be Buffalo though. 

I guess what I'm saying is I believe he'll be in the NHL next season for somebody. 

[kas23]

The Kraken need prospects in their pool. Quantity may slightly outweigh quality. I’m sure they would trade him for a 7th before sending him down. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Is anyone going to post some actual analytics on the new guys?

[steveoath]

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2021 by steveoath

[Drag0nDan]

6 hours ago, steveoath said:

 

 

 

So Hagg is likely the #7, pushing bryson for ice time.  I don't even need to see him play to say he's an upgrade over irwin.

[Weave]

So who is compiling analytics on the new posters?

[woods-racer]

9 minutes ago, Weave said:

So who is compiling analytics on the new posters?

I am.

 

You're getting a C- for that post. It didn't bring anything positive to the board and lacked comedic value.😁

[matter2003]

I don't get why Pysyk doesn't get more playing time and hasn't really gone anywhere since he left here...he always seemingly plays a solid game, his analytics are good....is there something else missing?  Does he falter when they try and add anything but the basics to his plate so they intentionally ask him to play an exceedingly simple game?  It just doesn't really make sense to me.

[Weave]

5 hours ago, woods-racer said:

I am.

 

You're getting a C- for that post. It didn't bring anything positive to the board and lacked comedic value.😁

So, still hitting par?

[IKnowPhysics]

4 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

I don't get why Pysyk doesn't get more playing time and hasn't really gone anywhere since he left here...he always seemingly plays a solid game, his analytics are good....is there something else missing?  Does he falter when they try and add anything but the basics to his plate so they intentionally ask him to play an exceedingly simple game?  It just doesn't really make sense to me.

His QoC was abyssmal last season, meaning his good corsi rates were potentially a product of playing very sheltered minutes.  This doesn't mean he's bad, but it doesn't demonstrate that he'd be good against better competition either.

[woods-racer]

4 hours ago, Weave said:

So, still hitting par?

 

I wish I was hitting par.  You've got better game than me.

[matter2003]

4 hours ago, IKnowPhysics said:

His QoC was abyssmal last season, meaning his good corsi rates were potentially a product of playing very sheltered minutes.  This doesn't mean he's bad, but it doesn't demonstrate that he'd be good against better competition either.

I thought his analytics when he was here playing more minutes were really good?

[Weave]

9 minutes ago, woods-racer said:

 

I wish I was hitting par.  You've got better game than me.