Rochester Americans 2021-2022

[inkman]

12 hours ago, Flashsabre said:

Can we please get Quinn or UPL into one of the last 2 games if there is only 1 callup left.

They called up Dell

[Buffalonill]

Embarrassing to miss 

Fire Appert 

[LGR4GM]

I feel bad for Mike Weber. He clearly taught the talented defenders well otherwise Fitz, Muel, and Bryson would be worse off in Buffalo but how's he supposed to get talent from ahl lifer defenders.

[Taro T]

13 hours ago, Claude Balls said:

UPL was not good

 

11 hours ago, Andrew Amerk said:

Did you watch the game?

Was at it.  What he said.

Had Cleveland been able to get shots actually on net at a little higher clip, they could've easily put 6 up against UPL.

That said, Amerks had 4 partial/full breakaways in the 2nd and came away w/ 1 weak, easily saved, shot on net to show for it.

They managed to blow a 2 goal lead against the only team in division that's already been eliminated.  Don't know why they have so much trouble w/ the Monsters.  That team'll have been the one that cost them a playoff berth.

Edited April 24, 2022 by Taro T
Friggin' autocorrect.

[Brawndo]

4 hours ago, inkman said:

They called up Dell

I believe that was an emergency recall, so they still have the  one non emergency remaining call up left.

[Taro T]

3 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I believe that was an emergency recall, so they still have the  one non emergency remaining call up left.

Considering Dell still needs to serve a 3 game suspension but dressed, expect that is correct.

[thewookie1]

Amerks truly blew it against the Cleveland Monsters twice and are now on literal life support.

In the 3rd the Amerks peppered Cleveland with shots from every location and yet couldn't get 1 puck past a goalie with only 2 prior pro games under his belt.

[sabremike]

If Taylor is somewhere watching this laughing his ass off I wouldn't blame him one bit. The organization were complete snakes for doing what they did to him and the bad karma just fell on them like a ton of bricks.

[pastajoe]

Three losses for the Amerks this weekend, two against the only team below them, have pretty much killed their playoff chances. Meanwhile the Sabres kept the players that could have helped them the past two weeks. Poor management by KA results in another missed opportunity that was there for the taking.

[Gatorman0519]

All those good prospects and we can't even make the playoffs?  That is a bummer.  Should of kept Taylor. 

[Taro T]

5 minutes ago, pastajoe said:

Three losses for the Amerks this weekend, two against the only team below them, have pretty much killed their playoff chances. Meanwhile the Sabres kept the players that could have helped them the past two weeks. Poor management by KA results in another missed opportunity that was there for the taking.

Neither Anderson nor Tokarski was coming down.  Neither Sanderson nor Fitzgerald was going to score any goals to help them outscore the lowly Monsters.

Krebs might have helped as maybe his springing 2 more breakaways last night might have gotten them 1 decent shot off a breakaway.  But they needed finishers or a goalie.  Neither of those are Krebs.

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, Gatorman0519 said:

All those good prospects and we can't even make the playoffs?  That is a bummer.  Should of kept Taylor. 

Definitely 100% should've kept Taylor.

But who are "all" these prospects you speak of?  There are 2 Amerks that'll be on the Buffalo roster on day 1 - Quinn & very likely UPL.  Peterka will be up before Christmas, but not sold on him making the Sabres out of camp.

There are others like Murray, Ruotsalainen, & Laaksonen that will get looks when the Sabres have injury issues.  Maybe Rousek rises up?  But Pekar, Weisback, & the rest might not even get injury callup duty.

Quinn looked very ordinary the games yours truly was at.  And Peterka didn't standout as he had on TV either.

A lot of legit prospects - at least 2 goalies, 1 D, and 4 F's were either in college or Europe.  The Amerks used their best (they're finally healthy again) but it wasn't good enough.  Guess we miss out on our annual rite of spring - getting thrashed in the 1st round by the Marlies.

[tom webster]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

Definitely 100% should've kept Taylor.

But who are "all" these prospects you speak of?  There are 2 Amerks that'll be on the Buffalo roster on day 1 - Quinn & very likely UPL.  Peterka will be up before Christmas, but not sold on him making the Sabres out of camp.

There are others like Murray, Ruotsalainen, & Laaksonen that will get looks when the Sabres have injury issues.  Maybe Rousek rises up?  But Pekar, Weisback, & the rest might not even get injury callup duty.

Quinn looked very ordinary the games yours truly was at.  And Peterka didn't standout as he had on TV either.

A lot of legit prospects - at least 2 goalies, 1 D, and 4 F's were either in college or Europe.  The Amerks used their best (they're finally healthy again) but it wasn't good enough.  Guess we miss out on our annual rite of spring - getting thrashed in the 1st round by the Marlies.

The development of Mule, Fitzgerald, Quinn and Peterka along with potential surprise of Biro makes this a good season for the Rochester staff, their record not withstanding. 

[Carmel Corn]

So if Bellville beats Toronto, do the Amerks still have a chance?

[Porous Five Hole]

@Carmel Corn, This chart sums it up:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CMDeDominicis/status/1518341143011942400?cxt=HHwWgICz0bPOnZIqAAAA

[Taro T]

31 minutes ago, tom webster said:

The development of Mule, Fitzgerald, Quinn and Peterka along with potential surprise of Biro makes this a good season for the Rochester staff, their record not withstanding. 

Maybe.  But right now, there are only 3-4 legit prospects in Ra-cha-cha.  (Forgot about Biro.  Maybe if he pronounced it Beer-o.  😉 )

And only one possible prospect, Fitzgerald, is in the NHL.  

Expect they'd all have developed under Tails as well.  Expect he might have kept a couple others growing as well.  No way to know on that front.  It's saying something that Appert & crew didn't mess up those guys.  But except for Biro & maybe Casey, they all were/are expected to be NHLers.

[inkman]

1 hour ago, sabremike said:

If Taylor is somewhere watching this laughing his ass off I wouldn't blame him one bit. The organization were complete snakes for doing what they did to him and the bad karma just fell on them like a ton of bricks.

It was Krueger.  No more no less 

[Carmel Corn]

13 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

@Carmel Corn, This chart sums it up:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CMDeDominicis/status/1518341143011942400?cxt=HHwWgICz0bPOnZIqAAAA

So is it now that Toronto needs 4 points in their next 3 games (just lost to Bellville a little while ago)?

[kas23]

14 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Maybe.  But right now, there are only 3-4 legit prospects in Ra-cha-cha.  (Forgot about Biro.  Maybe if he pronounced it Beer-o.  😉 )

And only one possible prospect, Fitzgerald, is in the NHL.  

Expect they'd all have developed under Tails as well.  Expect he might have kept a couple others growing as well.  No way to know on that front.  It's saying something that Appert & crew didn't mess up those guys.  But except for Biro & maybe Casey, they all were/are expected to be NHLers.

There can never be enough said for not messing up prospects. It’s a clear win in my book. 

[Taro T]

12 minutes ago, kas23 said:

There can never be enough said for not messing up prospects. It’s a clear win in my book. 

But where would Pekar & others be in a Taylor centric alternative universe?

Some, like him looked very promising.  Not so much anymore. 

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, sabremike said:

If Taylor is somewhere watching this laughing his ass off I wouldn't blame him one bit. The organization were complete snakes for doing what they did to him and the bad karma just fell on them like a ton of bricks.

If someone has more knowledge about the Taylor firing I would appreciate the added information. I think it was WGR's Paul Hamilton who stated that it was Krueger who got Taylor fired because the AHL coach made it clear to him that what he was espousing would not work in today's NHL. Supposedly, Krueger didn't want anyone in the ranks who didn't adhere to what he was promoting. The irony is that when he was fired and DG replaced him the new coach immediately took an approach that undid a lot of what the antiquated coach tried to install.  

[Marvin]

1 hour ago, JohnC said:

If someone has more knowledge about the Taylor firing I would appreciate the added information. I think it was WGR's Paul Hamilton who stated that it was Krueger who got Taylor fired because the AHL coach made it clear to him that what he was espousing would not work in today's NHL. Supposedly, Krueger didn't want anyone in the ranks who didn't adhere to what he was promoting. The irony is that when he was fired and DG replaced him the new coach immediately took an approach that undid a lot of what the antiquated coach tried to install.  

I have a couple of other sources who said Krueger made the call.

YMMV.

[Porous Five Hole]

1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said:

So is it now that Toronto needs 4 points in their next 3 games (just lost to Bellville a little while ago)?

Yes, but that assumes the Amerks win their season finale as well.  

[Flashsabre]

Krueger got Taylor fired. He talked about open communication and then didn’t talk to Taylor for the entire season. Taylor wouldn’t kiss the ring and admit Krueger was a genius and all his strategies would work in the NHL.

We saw how that turned out. The stink of Krueger still permeating in parts of the organization.

[GASabresIUFAN]

24 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Krueger got Taylor fired. He talked about open communication and then didn’t talk to Taylor for the entire season. Taylor wouldn’t kiss the ring and admit Krueger was a genius and all his strategies would work in the NHL.

We saw how that turned out. The stink of Krueger still permeating in parts of the organization.

Rasputin strikes again.