Rochester Americans 2021-2022

[inkman]

Amerks win 4-0.  UPL with the shutout. All the kids get at least a point.  Very promising. 

Edited November 14, 2021 by inkman

[Brawndo]

Peterka’s Forechecking Ability has been a pleasant surprise 

[Brawndo]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

Counting tonight, Samuelsson now has 5 points in a little less than 5 games.

+4, 12 shots on goal, physically dominant, calm and composed.

He's ready.

Mike Weber was on with the Instigators this week and was asked about Samuelsson.

Weber responded they feel if he went up to the Sabres now He would be a 5-6. With more time in Rochester, he would be a 3-4 or push for a Top Pairing Role 

[DarthEbriate]

29 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

Mike Weber was on with the Instigators this week and was asked about Samuelsson.

Weber responded they feel if he went up to the Sabres now He would be a 5-6. With more time in Rochester, he would be a 3-4 or push for a Top Pairing Role 

Mule will that shield pairing # down. We've gotta give him more time!  <cut back to ewoks>

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

Mike Weber was on with the Instigators this week and was asked about Samuelsson.

Weber responded they feel if he went up to the Sabres now He would be a 5-6. With more time in Rochester, he would be a 3-4 or push for a Top Pairing Role 

Whaaat? This management group plans to actually develop players properly wtf? 

Good plan. 

This is a clever tank. 

[Digger]

1 hour ago, dudacek said:

4-0 final.

UPL full value for the shutout.

He's been very solid the past 3 games.

Considering Dell's play tonight maybe he should take the next back to back game when Tokarski needs a rest.

[pi2000]

Watched the game in full.   Impressed with Krebs.   The points will come, he's got a great motor and good instincts that will only get better with experience.

Hope KA leaves these guys down there all season for a playoff run.  

UPL looked very composed, didn't overreact and stayed in position most of the night.   Good to see him improving.

Edited November 14, 2021 by pi2000

[Brawndo]

10 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Whaaat? This management group plans to actually develop players properly wtf? 

Good plan. 

This is a clever tank. 

Adams also mentioned their goal with development is not to put players in situations where they will survive, but where they will succeed. 
 

They are losing with dignity or whatever the hell the Leafs called it. 

[Hoss]

3 hours ago, dudacek said:

Weird. Looks like it's Quinn's goal.

Apparently Krebs didn't connect as he tried to sweep in the rebound and it was actually a Monster that knocked it in.

Krebs seems entirely incapable of scoring goals lol

[LGR4GM]

Quinn is tied for 1st in the AHL in goals with 1 less game played and is 3rd in points. 

[Derrico]

21 hours ago, Buffalonill said:

  Another thing that's bothering me if the organization knew  that Jack asked for a trade  before the Quinn pick why take a wing .

BPA

[LGR4GM]

7 minutes ago, Derrico said:

BPA

They clearly felt he had the most upside and have talked about his development curve and potential high ceiling numerous times. 

[Derrico]

13 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

They clearly felt he had the most upside and have talked about his development curve and potential high ceiling numerous times. 

Yes and he’s certainly showing it thus far albeit in the AHL

[K-9]

12 hours ago, pi2000 said:

Watched the game in full.   Impressed with Krebs.   The points will come, he's got a great motor and good instincts that will only get better with experience.

Hope KA leaves these guys down there all season for a playoff run.  

UPL looked very composed, didn't overreact and stayed in position most of the night.   Good to see him improving.

71 saves on 75 shots faced over the back to back games vs Cleveland and a .946 save percentage. Nice. 

[mjd1001]

32 minutes ago, K-9 said:

71 saves on 75 shots faced over the back to back games vs Cleveland and a .946 save percentage. Nice. 

I am thinking there are going to be a lot of ups and downs with the prospects in Rochester. As others have said, I'm all for keeping them down there the entire year, even if the big club 'needs' a little extra scoring.

Although, toward the end of the season, I would like to see all of the prospects get a week/3 games with the big club.  Even if they go back to Rochester, it can be a late season 'reminder' of the difference in competition between the AHL and the NHL and a reminder also of the things they need to keep working on.

[Taro T]

40 minutes ago, K-9 said:

71 saves on 75 shots faced over the back to back games vs Cleveland and a .946 save percentage. Nice. 

He doesn't look like the same guy that got some preseason action & the 1st few Amerks games.  There's a "poise" (for lack of a better word) to his game this past week or so that was NOT there earlier..  Would be fantastic if he can keep it up.

[Buffalonill]

2 hours ago, Derrico said:

BPA

He wasn't though 

[dudacek]

2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

He wasn't though 

That’s settled then.

[Taro T]

Just now, Buffalonill said:

He wasn't though 

Would've gone w/ 1 of the C's too.  But Quinn had the highest ceiling of anyone left on the board.  (And a really low floor, especially for a top 10 pick.)  But if you saw something to make you believe his play in his 1 big season was legit & sustainable, a case can be made he was BPA.

And his play since doesn't diminish the possibility he was the BPA when they were on the board.

[LGR4GM]

7 minutes ago, Buffalonill said:

He wasn't though 

The Sabres felt he was. 

Side note. Rossi has 10 points in 8 games but I'd expect him to start slow after a year off. 

Lundell has 7 in 11 nhl games

Perfetti has 6pts in 10 AHL games

Jarvis has 2pts in 6 NHL games

Quinn has 16pts in 11 AHL games

Outside of Lundell, Quinn could make a case for being 2nd best right now fairly easily. 

[dudacek]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The Sabres felt he was. 

Side note. Rossi has 10 points in 8 games but I'd expect him to start slow after a year off. 

Lundell has 7 in 11 nhl games

Perfetti has 6pts in 10 AHL games

Jarvis has 2pts in 6 NHL games

Quinn has 16pts in 11 AHL games

Outside of Lundell, Quinn could make a case for being 2nd best right now fairly easily. 

Often neglected in this conversation as well is the play of those who went ahead of Quinn.

Lafreniere and Stutzle are hardly lighting it up. Sanderson is still in college. Nothing Holtz has done puts him above where Jack is, same with Byfield.

My point is not that Quinn is better or worse, it’s that this is a small portion of a dozen long careers. 

A few months from now maybe Lundell has 14 points in 41 NHL games and both Panther fans are pushing for him to get sent down. Maybe Holtz has pumped in 14 more NHL goals.

It’s a long game. Quinn’s our guy. So far, so good.

[K-9]

22 minutes ago, Taro T said:

He doesn't look like the same guy that got some preseason action & the 1st few Amerks games.  There's a "poise" (for lack of a better word) to his game this past week or so that was NOT there earlier..  Would be fantastic if he can keep it up.

I watched each game this week (thanks to you and @PromoTheRobotletting me know that SHTs get free AHL TV) and I agree he looks more poised. Also seems to be moving better, especially post to post. 

[K-9]

7 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Often neglected in this conversation as well is the play of those who went ahead of Quinn.

Lafreniere and Stutzle are hardly lighting it up. Sanderson is still in college. Nothing Holtz has done puts him above where Jack is, same with Byfield.

My point is not that Quinn is better or worse, it’s that this is a small portion of a dozen long careers. 

A few months from now maybe Lundell has 14 points in 41 NHL games and both Panther fans are pushing for him to get sent down. Maybe Holtz has pumped in 14 more NHL goals.

It’s a long game. Quinn’s our guy. So far, so good.

Per the bold, ‘nuff said! Quinn is OUR guy and it’s absurd to lament the loss somebody we never had. Quinn is OUR guy. Let’s get behind him.

[LGR4GM]

13 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Often neglected in this conversation as well is the play of those who went ahead of Quinn.

Lafreniere and Stutzle are hardly lighting it up. Sanderson is still in college. Nothing Holtz has done puts him above where Jack is, same with Byfield.

My point is not that Quinn is better or worse, it’s that this is a small portion of a dozen long careers. 

A few months from now maybe Lundell has 14 points in 41 NHL games and both Panther fans are pushing for him to get sent down. Maybe Holtz has pumped in 14 more NHL goals.

It’s a long game. Quinn’s our guy. So far, so good.

Well Byfield is broken and almost 9 months younger but I'm curious to see how this class plays out. 

[Norcal]

3 stars!!