Evander Kane betting allegations

[Curt]

59 minutes ago, Andrew Amerk said:

Hockey isn’t that simple. You can try to ice a puck that takes an odd bounce and goes in. 

Happens all the time.  Oh wait.........

Edited August 1, 2021 by Curt

[aristocrat]

4 hours ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

There's nothing to get.

Well now there sure as ***** nothing but perhaps there could have been if he kept playing the rest of the contract out 

[Flashsabre]

Apparently the end of season exit interviews were just the players sh*tting on Kane to Doug Wilson.

Edited August 1, 2021 by Flashsabre

[ubkev]

This chick is definitely not Ride or Die.

[Hoss]

Tweet has been deleted (probably because of the typos)

 

[Hoss]

 

[Weave]

Yeah, I will repeat.  Drama just follows that guy.

[Eleven]

Love how this incident, if it even is one, gets more attention than when his daughter died.  Keepin' it classy...

Edited August 1, 2021 by Eleven

[LGR4GM]

Will have to wait and see how this plays out. Kane betting on his own games seems unlikely. 

[Weave]

1 hour ago, Eleven said:

Love how this incident, if it even is one, gets more attention than when his daughter died.  Keepin' it classy...

Not gonna lie. I had completely forgotten about that.  Losing a child can often be a catalyst for even healthy relationships to go south in a big way.  

[PP Slapper]

1 hour ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

That's true, that might happen once every couple of years. You can also shoot the puck into the bench or into the stands or magically fail to get the puck out of the zone.

Betting on hockey seems dubious at best 

[HoosierDaddy]

2 minutes ago, PP Slapper said:

Betting on hockey seems dubious at best 

People with gambling problems bet on spring training baseball games and preseason NFL games where you don’t even know who is actually going to play.

[GASabresIUFAN]

What great role models TM have Jack and Sam. 

[Pimlach]

48 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

What great role models TM have Jack and Sam. 

TM was not fit to run a team.  His career, which is over, was a classic example of nepotism.  Patty LaLa blew that hire big time.  

[thewookie1]

12 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

TM was not fit to run a team.  His career, which is over, was a classic example of nepotism.  Patty LaLa blew that hire big time.  

I partially disagree. He was a great scout but had zero ability to understand personality based value and the greater interconnectivity between a team’s players. He took the whole players are “robots” approach and ignored any and all potential personality clashes that could arise.

[Hoss]

GMTM is the best GM we've had post-Regier and that's obviously a low bar but his abrasive personality obviously cost him a career. His abrasive personality also probably had something to do with his inability to understand what team building really is.

[Pimlach]

23 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

I partially disagree. He was a great scout but had zero ability to understand personality based value and the greater interconnectivity between a team’s players. He took the whole players are “robots” approach and ignored any and all potential personality clashes that could arise.

A am not sure he was a great scout but a scout is not a GM.  

10 minutes ago, Hoss said:

GMTM is the best GM we've had post-Regier and that's obviously a low bar but his abrasive personality obviously cost him a career. His abrasive personality also probably had something to do with his inability to understand what team building really is.

Very low bar indeed.  Still have hope for Adams. 

[Wyldnwoody44]

I just don't like Kane, from my own brief personal interactions with him, and then that situation from years ago with the "alleged"sexual assault. Sadly I have some inside knowledge of the whole story (obviously can't speak on it due to HIPPA and privacy/decency) but that's enough to make him enemy No. 1 in my mind, he gets no benefit of the doubt from me. 

[Pimlach]

4 hours ago, Let's Go B-Lo said:

That's true, that might happen once every couple of years centuries. You can also shoot the puck into the bench or into the stands or magically fail to get the puck out of the zone.

Fixed 

[Curt]

59 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

I partially disagree. He was a great scout but had zero ability to understand personality based value and the greater interconnectivity between a team’s players. He took the whole players are “robots” approach and ignored any and all potential personality clashes that could arise.

I seriously question whether he was in fact a good scout.  His drafting as Sabres GM was quite poor.

[Taro T]

3 minutes ago, Curt said:

I seriously question whether he was in fact a good scout.  His drafting as Sabres GM was quite poor.

It's not an unfair question/ observation.

He definitely had a preference in style of player he liked.  In fairness to him, the big power forward & bruising D-man which he seemed to obsess over usually need a lot of development to make any sort of impact in the NHL.  The ones at the very top of the draft not so much, but the rest do.  Expect the Sabres lousy job of development prior to Taylor taking over as Amerks HC might have something to do with his miss rate.

Would be interesting to study (IMHO, YMMV 😉 ) his draft picks & other similar style players drafted in those years and see how players drafted with quality development programs fared relative to the Sabres prospects.

[Weave]

21 minutes ago, Curt said:

I seriously question whether he was in fact a good scout.  His drafting as Sabres GM was quite poor.

I think his drafting wad more a reflection of his swing for the fences mentality than of his talent evaluation skills.  He was very open about chasing size and athleticism over more traditional evaluations.

[Curt]

13 minutes ago, Weave said:

I think his drafting wad more a reflection of his swing for the fences mentality than of his talent evaluation skills.  He was very open about chasing size and athleticism over more traditional evaluations.

Well, I suppose that would be acceptable if he actually hit on an acceptable number of these big swings.  So far, Botterill’s drafts have looked way better.

[Curt]

32 minutes ago, Taro T said:

It's not an unfair question/ observation.

He definitely had a preference in style of player he liked.  In fairness to him, the big power forward & bruising D-man which he seemed to obsess over usually need a lot of development to make any sort of impact in the NHL.  The ones at the very top of the draft not so much, but the rest do.  Expect the Sabres lousy job of development prior to Taylor taking over as Amerks HC might have something to do with his miss rate.

Would be interesting to study (IMHO, YMMV 😉 ) his draft picks & other similar style players drafted in those years and see how players drafted with quality development programs fared relative to the Sabres prospects.

I can’t agree, because basically all of the guys drafted by Murray who actually made it to the AHL arrived there after Taylor was already in place.  The problem wasn’t so much that a bunch of promising prospects were stagnating in the AHL.  It was more so that there were not a lot of prospects who ended up being good enough to even sign with the Sabres and then come play in the AHL.

[Zamboni]

1 minute ago, Curt said:

I can’t agree, because basically all of the guys drafted by Murray who actually made it to the AHL arrived there after Taylor was already in place.  The problem wasn’t so much that a bunch of promising prospects were stagnating in the AHL.  It was more so that there were not a lot of prospects who ended up being good enough to even sign with the Sabres and then come play in the AHL.

Yea I would agree with this take. Talent wasn’t there in many cases.