Hoss Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, darksabre said: None of the stuff that has been stated publicly by Jack or his agent is convincing. Honestly. It’s clear to me. Jack Eichel wants to be elsewhere. And that’s fine. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Well Ennis wasn't young in 2014 and Neither was Myers or Foligno. They were 23 I believe in 13/14. First KA is lying trough his teeth. Just like he had the authority to fire Rasputin, he is under orders to go cheap. Also if his pivot plan was Anderson and Dell he is either lying or incompetent or mostly likely both. Edited July 29, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN 1 Quote
Eleven Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 I liked most of what I heard/read about. 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Thorny said: I'm not sure it's a good thing that Cozens and Dahlin and co are going to be subjected to all the losing Then it's up to them to right the ship...No? Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 I’ve got to say, this was a solid press conference. He actually answered the question about Eichel rather well. He wants players who want to be here doesn’t necessarily mean he will only allow players who want to be here. He’s essentially telling the bidding teams that we are fine with keeping Eichel for a myriad of reasons and that his buzzwords for the team doesn’t mean there are no exceptions. To to be honest I think either Vegas or Anaheim snap. I’m glad to at least hear there’s a plan; and they are playing by said plan. Hopefully it’s a good one. To be honest our defense has strangely become better analytically when you remember McCabe only played 13 games. 1 Quote
SDS Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: They were 23 I believe in 13/14. First KA is lying trough his teeth. Just like he had the authority to fire Rasputin, he is under orders to go cheap. Also if his pivot plan was Anderson and Dell he is either lying or incompetent or mostly likely both. He was asked if there was an internal cap. He said no. That can absolutely be true but being on the guidance to be mindful of costs. 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SDS said: He was asked if there was an internal cap. He said no. That can absolutely be true but being on the guidance to be mindful of costs. No cap, just cut costs as much as possible. Anyone think Dahlin is signing more then a bridge deal to get himself to UFA status? I guess he decided since he couldn’t get a real goalie to get us over the cap floor he’ll keep Jack around long enough to get over the cap minimum and then trade him in an ROR type deal by mid season. Edited July 29, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN Quote
SwampD Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Eleven said: I liked most of what I heard/read about. I hated almost all of it. It all reeked of yet another year of accepting losing. Awesome. ***** this team. 2 Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Let's Go B-Lo said: If I'm him I'm begging someone, ANYONE, for a sheet. KA would take it as it would add picks and save even more money. Edited July 29, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN Quote
Cascade Youth Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, SwampD said: I hated almost all of it. It all reeked of yet another year of accepting losing. Awesome. ***** this team. Honestly denial would be scarier… Quote
darksabre Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, Hoss said: It’s clear to me. Jack Eichel wants to be elsewhere. And that’s fine. That's fine, we can disagree on the substance of the Eichel camp's statements. Quote
SwampD Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: Honestly denial would be scarier… I want a plan for the Sabres to be better that doesn't include getting rid of our best players. It will be almost a decade of doing that. 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, darksabre said: That's fine, we can disagree on the substance of the Eichel camp's statements. At the very least it was opportunistic but unsubtle, in both cases. And while I know your case for it being on the team (which is at the very least partially accurate), Kevyn Adams has also made it clear in multiple cases that Jack has asked out. Edited July 29, 2021 by Hoss Quote
Broken Ankles Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: KA would take it as it would add picks and save even more money. Doubtful any team offer sheets this guy. Cap/Risk/Comp in that order. What would be a possible offer a team could make - $7.0M for 5 years? The comp is only a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Easily matched. You need to get to $8.7M * 6 before you get 4 1st in return. Who has this space and would risk these picks? If its Detroit, yes please. Doubt he even sees anything but a bridge deal from KA. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, Broken Ankles said: Doubtful any team offer sheets this guy. Cap/Risk/Comp in that order. What would be a possible offer a team could make - $7.0M for 5 years? The comp is only a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Easily matched. You need to get to $8.7M * 6 before you get 4 1st in return. Who has this space and would risk these picks? If its Detroit, yes please. Doubt he even sees anything but a bridge deal from KA. Why would he want anything but a bridge deal? KA wants the bridge to save money and Dahlin wants one to get out of town as soon as possible. Quote
Cheektorado Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 45 minutes ago, Hoss said: Jack and his agents have already made very clear he does not want to be here. It’s something that seems to be forgotten during these conversations. He has no interest in ever playing for this team again. That said, I still think he does. At least for 15-20 more games. Maybe more, maybe less. Yes. It is part of the reason other GMs are testing KA no doubt. If Jack stays for the start of the season the pressure starts to be put on him. Quote
Huckleberry Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Why would he want anything but a bridge deal? KA wants the bridge to save money and Dahlin wants one to get out of town as soon as possible. So negative, maybe with captain jack out of town the kids grow and be happy ? 10 minutes ago, Cheektorado said: Yes. It is part of the reason other GMs are testing KA no doubt. If Jack stays for the start of the season the pressure starts to be put on him. Not really, he is here 4 more years then .... 2 Quote
PP Slapper Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: They were 23 I believe in 13/14. First KA is lying trough his teeth. Just like he had the authority to fire Rasputin, he is under orders to go cheap. Also if his pivot plan was Anderson and Dell he is either lying or incompetent or mostly likely both. In a long list of terrible Sabrespace posters, you may be my least favorite 1 Quote
nfreeman Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, PP Slapper said: In a long list of terrible Sabrespace posters, you may be my least favorite This is obnoxious. 2 Quote
Cheektorado Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: So negative, maybe with captain jack out of town the kids grow and be happy ? Not really, he is here 4 more years then .... ....most of his career will be over before it started. It his choice too. Quote
Radar Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, PP Slapper said: In a long list of terrible Sabrespace posters, you may be my least favorite You're not that old on this site, unless of course you've changed names. Maybe you are the terrible poster. Just sayin. 3 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: No cap, just cut costs as much as possible. Anyone think Dahlin is signing more then a bridge deal to get himself to UFA status? I guess he decided since he couldn’t get a real goalie to get us over the cap floor he’ll keep Jack around long enough to get over the cap minimum and then trade him in an ROR type deal by mid season. I think by the time Rasmus II gets to UFA the Sabres will be very good and he will give them a 'home team' discount to stay. Yup. 1 3 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 34 minutes ago, PP Slapper said: In a long list of terrible Sabrespace posters, you may be my least favorite While I don't always agree with @GASabresIUFAN, this is not a good way to counter his points, IMO. 4 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, Radar said: You're not that old on this site, unless of course you've changed names. Maybe you are the terrible poster. Just sayin. Been here since 2014, apparently, but only 40 posts, so maybe he / she is still learning. It often takes a while to get used to the way things normally work around here. It did for me and now I'm an *all star* ... 😉 Quote
nfreeman Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 2 hours ago, dudacek said: Both of those things can be true at the same time. In theory yes. Not sure how likely it is. KA also said he wanted to sign Dahlin to a long-term deal, which could still be a prep-for-sale move but probably not consistent with an expected sale in the next year. I guess we’ll see. I certainly wouldn’t be surprised if you’re right. Quote
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