HoosierDaddy Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: Not true. Girgensons was a high quality prospect, among others Risto played 78 games in 14/15, as well as Grigorenko and Zadorov. 1 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, WildCard said: Grigensons didn't touch Mittlestadt, Cozens, or Quinn. Yup. I don't really like that approach, but we'll see. Yes, he did, at the time we picked him. Top half of the first round pick. Quinn also won't be here. Girgensons had the same points per game as Cozens did D+2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, WildCard said: I mean it is and it isn't. I think they get the tank they want while at the same time letting the kids play as much as they can, which is also what they want. That is my impression Quote
SabresVet Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Haven't heard the term "box-out" this much since I played HS basketball Quote
Mustache of God Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 I'm hoping someone asks if he expects the team to compete for a playoff spot this season. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Adams is basically saying the kids are getting the keys and the ones that swim we will keep and build around. Talking about building a team over time. The problem is that they haven't added any kids with potential to the roster 1 Quote
darksabre Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, WildCard said: Grigensons didn't touch Mittlestadt, Cozens, or Quinn. Yup. I don't really like that approach, but we'll see. Right. No idea if it's the right thing to do, but it's definitely not the first time I've heard them bring the idea up. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Posted July 29, 2021 He actually gets it. He understands we need compete and not just punching ppl in the face. 3 Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Did you honestly think they were going to bring in ppl this summer? I thought they might bring in some capable vets, as that is the strategy I would employ. But failing that, I did think if they went with the "go young" strategy, they'd actually bring in young players for the roster with upside 1 Quote
WildCard Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Thorny said: Yes, he did, at the time we picked him. Top half of the first round pick. Quinn also won't be here. Girgensons had the same points per game as Cozens did D+2 No, he didn't. He was a 14th overall pick. I'm not going to debate with you on this team being different than that team. I've read your posts, they're good arguments. I feel it's not the same. Quote
Zamboni Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Mustache of God said: I'm hoping someone asks if he expects the team to compete for a playoff spot this season. Why? Haven’t you learned after all these years and many many press conferences … The GM’s are optimistic to the media about that. “Of course our goal is to make the playoffs”, “and to win the cup”. And it’s the fans job to believe or not believe it. Rinse and repeat…. Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, WildCard said: No, he didn't. He was a 14th overall pick. I'm not going to debate with you on this team being different than that team. I've read your posts, they're good arguments. I feel it's not the same. Didn't what? 14 is top half of the first Already have done the PPG calculation unless I botched it Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: Yes, he did, at the time we picked him. Top half of the first round pick. Quinn also won't be here. Girgensons had the same points per game as Cozens did D+2 Girgensons played 19+ minutes a night compared to Cozens 14 in his D+2 year and NEVER got close to those point totals again. 1 Quote
Mustache of God Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Zamboni said: Why? Haven’t you learned after all these years and many many press conferences … The GM’s are optimistic to the media about that. “Of course our goal is to make the playoffs”, “and to win the cup”. And it’s the fans job to believe or not believe it. Rinse and repeat…. So we can identify his tells... 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: Girgensons played 19+ minutes a night compared to Cozens 14 in his D+2 year and NEVER got close to those point totals again. I'm not arguing he's as good. I'm a bit tired of the "we had no good young players" the last time We did. I've laid out the lists repeatedly and it just doesn't matter lol Quote
HoosierDaddy Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: I'm not arguing he's as good. I'm a bit tired of the "we had no good young players" the last time We did. Or at least we thought we did... 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: I'm not arguing he's as good. I'm a bit tired of the "we had no good young players" the last time We did. That is why the 2021 draft was so important. That is why they need to get another 1st and 2nd in 2022. They need the critical mass of talent they never got in 2015. 3 Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Sound like a guy very happy with how things have unfolded, in all honesty Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: That is why the 2021 draft was so important. That is why they need to get another 1st and 2nd in 2022. They need the critical mass of talent they never got in 2015. I agree, it's about the next couple drafts Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: Sound like a guy very happy with how things have unfolded, in all honesty I don't love it and I know you don't, but Adams is following his plan. That is very evident and I hope he is happy because he thinks an Eichel trade is close. 3 Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Very specific he wants to be disciplined to a plan. It's a plan and it's a choice Quote
sabrefanday1 Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: Sound like a guy very happy with how things have unfolded, in all honesty agreed and boy is that scary...this is a complete disaster in the Titanic mode Quote
Thorner Posted July 29, 2021 Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: I don't love it and I know you don't, but Adams is following his plan. That is very evident and I hope he is happy because he thinks an Eichel trade is close. Agree Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 29, 2021 Author Report Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: I agree, it's about the next couple drafts In 2013 and 2014 we totally botched those drafts and never recovered. 2021 has some questions but I don't feel we botched it (I could be wrong). We at least drafted 11 guys giving you lots of chances. If only 4 games are NHL teams, we are doing good. Quote
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