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Just now, WildCard said:

Grigensons didn't touch Mittlestadt, Cozens, or Quinn.

Yup. I don't really like that approach, but we'll see.

Yes, he did, at the time we picked him. Top half of the first round pick. Quinn also won't be here. 

Girgensons had the same points per game as Cozens did D+2

Posted
Just now, WildCard said:

I mean it is and it isn't. I think they get the tank they want while at the same time letting the kids play as much as they can, which is also what they want.

That is my impression

Posted
1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

Adams is basically saying the kids are getting the keys and the ones that swim we will keep and build around. Talking about building a team over time. 

The problem is that they haven't added any kids with potential to the roster 

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Posted
1 minute ago, WildCard said:

Grigensons didn't touch Mittlestadt, Cozens, or Quinn.

Yup. I don't really like that approach, but we'll see.

Right. No idea if it's the right thing to do, but it's definitely not the first time I've heard them bring the idea up.

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2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Did you honestly think they were going to bring in ppl this summer? 

I thought they might bring in some capable vets, as that is the strategy I would employ. But failing that, I did think if they went with the "go young" strategy, they'd actually bring in young players for the roster with upside

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Posted
1 minute ago, Thorny said:

Yes, he did, at the time we picked him. Top half of the first round pick. Quinn also won't be here. 

Girgensons had the same points per game as Cozens did D+2

No, he didn't. He was a 14th overall pick. 

I'm not going to debate with you on this team being different than that team. I've read your posts, they're good arguments. I feel it's not the same. 

Posted
Just now, Mustache of God said:

I'm hoping someone asks if he expects the team to compete for a playoff spot this season.

Why? Haven’t you learned after all these years and many many press conferences … The GM’s are optimistic  to the media about that. “Of course our goal is to make the playoffs”, “and to win the cup”.

And it’s the fans job to believe or not believe it.

Rinse and repeat….

Posted
1 minute ago, WildCard said:

No, he didn't. He was a 14th overall pick. 

I'm not going to debate with you on this team being different than that team. I've read your posts, they're good arguments. I feel it's not the same. 

Didn't what? 14 is top half of the first

Already have done the PPG calculation unless I botched it

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3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Yes, he did, at the time we picked him. Top half of the first round pick. Quinn also won't be here. 

Girgensons had the same points per game as Cozens did D+2

Girgensons played 19+ minutes a night compared to Cozens 14 in his D+2 year and NEVER got close to those point totals again. 

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Just now, Zamboni said:

Why? Haven’t you learned after all these years and many many press conferences … The GM’s are optimistic  to the media about that. “Of course our goal is to make the playoffs”, “and to win the cup”.

And it’s the fans job to believe or not believe it.

Rinse and repeat….

So we can identify his tells...

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Posted
Just now, LGR4GM said:

Girgensons played 19+ minutes a night compared to Cozens 14 in his D+2 year and NEVER got close to those point totals again. 

I'm not arguing he's as good. 

I'm a bit tired of the "we had no good young players" the last time

We did. 

I've laid out the lists repeatedly and it just doesn't matter lol 

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Just now, Thorny said:

I'm not arguing he's as good. 

I'm a bit tired of the "we had no good young players" the last time

We did. 

That is why the 2021 draft was so important. That is why they need to get another 1st and 2nd in 2022. They need the critical mass of talent they never got in 2015. 

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1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

That is why the 2021 draft was so important. That is why they need to get another 1st and 2nd in 2022. They need the critical mass of talent they never got in 2015. 

I agree, it's about the next couple drafts

Posted
Just now, Thorny said:

Sound like a guy very happy with how things have unfolded, in all honesty 

I don't love it and I know you don't, but Adams is following his plan. That is very evident and I hope he is happy because he thinks an Eichel trade is close. 

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Posted
Just now, LGR4GM said:

I don't love it and I know you don't, but Adams is following his plan. That is very evident and I hope he is happy because he thinks an Eichel trade is close. 

Agree

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Just now, Thorny said:

I agree, it's about the next couple drafts

In 2013 and 2014 we totally botched those drafts and never recovered. 2021 has some questions but I don't feel we botched it (I could be wrong). We at least drafted 11 guys giving you lots of chances. If only 4 games are NHL teams, we are doing good. 

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