Which of the Big 3 Are Moved?

[WildCard]

The trade freeze lifts Thursday 7/22/2021 at 1pm. The draft is the next night, Friday 7/23/2021, at 8pm. That window is really the window where Eichel and Reinhart will be moved, and most likely Ristolainen. So, who do you think is moved?

[Buffalonill]

4 minutes ago, WildCard said:

The trade freeze lifts Thursday 7/22/2021 at 1pm. The draft is the next night, Friday 7/23/2021, at 8pm. That window is really the window where Eichel and Reinhart will be moved, and most likely Ristolainen. So, who do you think is moved?

You mean this Friday  😉

[WildCard]

Just now, Buffalonill said:

You mean this Friday  😉

I'm a developer man I always have to clarify dates 😄 

[Thorner]

I think all 3 move, (Eichel at 100%) with Reinhart having a 20% chances of staying and Risto having a 35% chance of staying. 

[Radar]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

I think all 3 move, (Eichel at 100%) with Reinhart having a 20% chances of staying and Risto having a 35% chance of staying. 

I'm okay with this except Eichel at 100%. I'm less sure he'll be traded. Also think it maybe later rather than sooner before any are traded.

[Thorner]

2 minutes ago, Radar said:

I'm okay with this except Eichel at 100%. I'm less sure he'll be traded. Also think it maybe later rather than sooner before any are traded.

I could definitely see the Eichel deal drag into the summer 

[Carmel Corn]

I could easily be wrong, but the more this goes on, the more it feels that NOTHING will happen before the draft.  GMKA will not make a trade just to make a trade and will cite that the return was not enough to justify making a change.   GMKA will select Power at 1OA and then we'll watch other teams make moves, but not Buffalo.

[Radar]

1 minute ago, Thorny said:

I could definitely see the Eichel deal drag into the summer 

I think it will. The other two could be moved at draft if it gets us another high first round pick. Otherwise I think all three will be later in summer.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pimlach]

15 minutes ago, Thorny said:

I could definitely see the Eichel deal drag into the summer 

I could see it drag longer, like into the season, unless KA settles for less than what is reasonably fair for an injured, young,  superstar player. 

[Cal Naughton Jr]

I don’t believe there is a reality that exists where none of them get traded. At least one is going somewhere 

[Thorner]

7 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I could see it drag longer, like into the season, unless KA settles for less than what is reasonably fair for an injured, young,  superstar player. 

I'm still with @dudacekthat the injury dynamics are being slightly overplayed. At least if we can believe at all some of the rumored packages being suggested (though I suppose w/o confirmation we can't). The offers being suggested to me are so noteworthy in terms of value that I more so see the gap between these deals and what we "want" for Jack Eichel to be more representative of a "bargaining play" by opposing GMs (run-of-the-mill negotiating, more less) and less representative of an "injury discount" on a severely injured player. 

We won't know until we see the return, but in my head I don't see teams being like, "well, there's a good chance this guy will never get back to health, so I'm not giving up Trevor Zegras, but 3rd overall and a top 6 player? Have at it".

Edited July 20, 2021 by Thorny

[nfreeman]

@WildCard -- is the question "which of the 3 will be moved at or before the draft?" or is it "which of the 3 will be moved before the start of the season?"  Or other?

[WildCard]

Just now, nfreeman said:

@WildCard -- is the question "which of the 3 will be moved at or before the draft?" or is it "which of the 3 will be moved before the start of the season?"  Or other?

The latter, the dates are simply there because that is the most likely time they are traded. 

[LGR4GM]

Eichel to Minnesota for Rossi, 22nd, Addison, and Rask

Reinhart to LA for Turcotte and 8oa

Ristolainen to the sun for idgaf

[Doohicksie]

9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Ristolainen to the sun for idgaf

I know you hate Risto. I don't.  If he's here, he's here.  I also think he's the most likely to get traded anyway because some teams do seem to believe he's a good player and he's in a position where the Sabres are fairly deep so return doesn't matter as much.  Eich and Reino move only if between them we get a 1C back (or a 2C capable of playing on the top line for a while).

[WildCard]

12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Ristolainen to the sun for idgaf

You're gonna be pretty happy when he brings back a Tier 2 prospect and a pick.

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, WildCard said:

You're gonna be pretty happy when he brings back a Tier 2 prospect and a pick.

Reinhart and Risto (50% retained) for 8th, Turcotte, Faber, and a 2nd in 2022

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Only Risto maybe (I hope) ...

[thewookie1]

38 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Eichel to Minnesota for Rossi, 22nd, Addison, and Rask

Reinhart and Risto (50% retained) for 8th, Turcotte, Faber, and a 2nd in 2022

The 1st would leave me rather unhappy but the latter trade would certainly be a great return.

[Weave]

Reino has the lowest odds of moving, but the likelihood is still much higher than 50% IMO.

And the difference in return between Jack and Sam will be about the equivalent of a 3rd line forward.

[GASabresIUFAN]

None.  I won't believe it until I see it.

[Shootica]

I'll throw out a prediction: Reinhart and Risto get moves, Eichel does not.

Edited July 20, 2021 by Shootica

[Huckleberry]

I think they are all gone 

Apparently the rumours that look plausible are 

Samson to La for Turcotte and 8OA

Eichel to minnesota Boldy, Rossi, 22 OA + Dumba

Ristolainen to philly ?? 

[dudacek]

As confident as I am the Sam could garner a top 10 pick in value, there is no way he’s getting the equivalent of two top 10 picks in 8 and Turcotte. Turcotte’s star has fallen a bit, but not that much.

[Zamboni]

“We only want players who want to be here” 

 

 

All three are likely gone before October 12th.