Sabres open goalie protection slot

[Eleven]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

Plunkett was very talented when he came into the league but playing for the Patsies beat that out of him.  He had a very strong team around him and got lucky to go against a Vermeil led team.

But Stabler was the real deal.   Very few guys in the 70's had great #'s but that was because of the era.  He led that team on the field & in the bar.

They didn't elect him to the HOF during his lifetime for a reason.  He wasn't great.  When the league needed some press, they elected him.

[Taro T]

2 minutes ago, Eleven said:

They didn't elect him to the HOF during his lifetime for a reason.  He wasn't great.  When the league needed some press, they elected him.

Yeah.  Al Davis ticked all the other owners off with his LA shenanigans.  That kept the Snake's induction overdue.

[Eleven]

2 hours ago, Taro T said:

Yeah.  Al Davis ticked all the other owners off with his LA shenanigans.  That kept the Snake's induction overdue.

He was ok.  He wasn't what we could consider a franchise QB and it had nothing to do with Al Davis.  Plunkett won 2, ffs.

 

[thewookie1]

I'd certainly check into the price of acquiring Ben Bishop.

Re-sign Ullmark

Then we should have hopefully 1 good goalie per game as they get alternating injures.

 

[Pimlach]

7 hours ago, thewookie1 said:

I'd certainly check into the price of acquiring Ben Bishop.

Re-sign Ullmark

Then we should have hopefully 1 good goalie per game as they get alternating injures.

 

Agree.  The need a 1A, 1B arrangement.  No more dogs like Hutton and the others.  

[Pimlach]

10 hours ago, Taro T said:

Plunkett was very talented when he came into the league but playing for the Patsies beat that out of him.  He had a very strong team around him and got lucky to go against a Vermeil led team.

But Stabler was the real deal.   Very few guys in the 70's had great #'s but that was because of the era.  He led that team on the field & in the bar.

This is off base.  Vermeil was an excellent football coach and took a poor Eagles team and made them into a good Eagles team, just not nearly as good as several AFC teams at the time.  Later,  Vermeil built the Rams up from a poor team to one that won a SB.  The Rams had a great core and they were foolish to hastily replace Vermeil with Martz, and they quickly became one demisional.   I don’t get the comment on Vermeil at all.  
 

Stabler was a fine QB for his era.  I always thought he was borderline HOF, definitely the benefactor of playing on a very strong teams.  Put Joe Ferguson in his prime on those Raiders teams and he would have lit it up. 

[Taro T]

11 hours ago, Eleven said:

He was ok.  He wasn't what we could consider a franchise QB and it had nothing to do with Al Davis.  Plunkett won 2, ffs.

 

Totally forgot about him QBing that Marcus Davis SB as well.  (Long friggin' weekend courtesy of the 24 hours+ of rain.)  Still not all that impressed w/ Plunkett.

3 hours ago, Pimlach said:

This is off base.  Vermeil was an excellent football coach and took a poor Eagles team and made them into a good Eagles team, just not nearly as good as several AFC teams at the time.  Later,  Vermeil built the Rams up from a poor team to one that won a SB.  The Rams had a great core and they were foolish to hastily replace Vermeil with Martz, and they quickly became one demisional.   I don’t get the comment on Vermeil at all.  
 

Stabler was a fine QB for his era.  I always thought he was borderline HOF, definitely the benefactor of playing on a very strong teams.  Put Joe Ferguson in his prime on those Raiders teams and he would have lit it up. 

Vermeil was a good coach but he got really lucky winning his one SB.  IMHO in the really big games he got outcoached just like Marv Levy had a tendency to do.  If that Titan drives a yard further, he ends up the poor man's Marty Schottenheimer.  

[Sabres Fan in NS]

So, I'll say again ... this really doesn't matter anymore, eh?