Taro T Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, The Jokeman said: This in kind of how we got Dominick Hasek as the then Winnipeg Jets didn't want to lose Stephane Beauregard in the expansion draft to Tampa or Florida so they shipped him to us for Ruutu, we than traded Beaurgard to Chicago for Hasek and the Blackhawks then shipped Beauregard to Winniped for Ruutu. Not just "kind of how," it's exactly how. The Sabres also traded away the pick that became Eric Daze along with Ruuttu. 1 Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 For the love of God what are they doing??/ Quote
Thwomp! Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 They're gonna waste this opportunity, aren't they? 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thwomp! said: They're gonna waste this opportunity, aren't they? Like the trade deadline, a lot can happen in 4 hours Quote
dudacek Posted July 17, 2021 Author Report Posted July 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thwomp! said: They're gonna waste this opportunity, aren't they? If they don’t make a move there are only two defensible choices I can think of. 1) they protect and sign Ullmark 2) they know they are getting a goalie in a trade that isn’t happening (for whatever reason) until after the ED. 1 Quote
Thwomp! Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 Are there teams that only have goalie protection issues? Columbus? Montreal? Florida? Carolina? Rangers? Gotta be someone who'd take a draft pick over nothing. Quote
steveoath Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) Could we rent the spot for a pick/prospect and protect another teams GT? If ullmark or NA other hasn't signed its "free money" no? ETA: I like that we are not hearing squat from KA or the Sabres at the moment. Means they are keeping g a lid on rumors and not jeopardising negotiations. Edited July 17, 2021 by steveoath I added stuff Quote
Rasmus_ Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 I really would have liked to go after Vanacek. Quote
Hoss Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 23 minutes ago, Thwomp! said: They're gonna waste this opportunity, aren't they? The only “opportunity” here is to pay a low price for a goalie already on a roster but whatever goalie it is would be one that team deems to be their backup. Let’s not overthink this. There are a ton of goalies who would be similarly judged that will be free as UFAs after the expansion draft (including Ullmark). Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 2 1/2 hours and nothing. Not a surprise. Same bad management as always. Quote
Marvin Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 They may plan on protecting Ullmark because a contract is close. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Marvin, Sabres Fan said: They may plan on protecting Ullmark because a contract is close. That would be nice. I wish I had your confidence in KA and his management team. Quote
Archie Lee Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 There aren't many teams that have: 1.) An expansion draft eligible goalie they are protecting; 2.) A 2nd expansion draft eligible goalie they wouldn't want to lose for nothing; and 3.) A 3rd expansion draft eligible goalie that they can expose to Seattle, as is required, if they trade goalie #2. The other factor is that those few teams who meet the above criteria, may well just prefer to lose the goalie to Seattle than to lose the skater that Seattle would take if goalie #2 is traded. This is not as simple as some are making it out to be. The few teams that are in a situation where they may want to move a goalie, may be taking it down to the wire, similar to the regular trade deadline. 3 Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 It was sometime after 3:30 that it was noticed the fax machine was out of paper... Quote
Thorner Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 It's funny how all the analysts always say there will be a lot of trades and then often there aren't a lot of trades Quote
Weave Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: 2 1/2 hours and nothing. Not a surprise. Same bad management as always. Unless he knows this is coming. 8 minutes ago, Hoss said: Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 Just now, Weave said: Unless he knows this is coming. How does this change anything unless he has a deal to get Driedger from Florida in the next 90 minutes. Quote
Weave Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: How does this change anything unless he has a deal to get Driedger from Florida in the next 90 minutes. Unless I am misreading things, your angst is over him not protecting a goalie? If the goalie is known to be chosen by Seattle, what is the angst about? Quote
Hoss Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: 2 1/2 hours and nothing. Not a surprise. Same bad management as always. Let’s not place criticism where it isn’t warranted. This isn’t a must or a simple thing when there are likely as good or better goalies that will be available in free agency. Quote
Radar Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 Looks like the team has decided to not make any moves prior to the expansion draft. I do expect Thursday through the draft might get interesting 1 Quote
Eleven Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: 2 1/2 hours and nothing. Not a surprise. Same bad management as always. What advantage does the team gain by announcing early? As I usually say in situations like this, think like Bill Belichick. Would he spill the beans even a moment before the deadline? Nope. Quote
LabattBlue Posted July 17, 2021 Report Posted July 17, 2021 I am very nervous that KA(despite having Karmanos to assist), is going through a deer in the headlights period, and because of that, ends up not making moves that need to be made, or panics, and makes bad moves. I hope I'm wrong. Quote
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