JohnC Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:08 PM, dudacek said: Does this signal how Jeff is another veteran who wouldn’t mind moving on? 😘 Expand His willingness to put himself in jeopardy (as unlikely as it may be) in order to help out the organization could be interpreted that he is bought in to the Granato era. He knows that Granato is a coach that will do everything he can to enhance his play. By allowing himself to be exposed in the upcoming expansion draft he is demonstrating that he wants to take an action that will benefit the team. 6 1 Quote
nfreeman Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:08 PM, dudacek said: Does this signal how Jeff is another veteran who wouldn’t mind moving on? 😘 Expand On 7/14/2021 at 2:10 PM, Thorny said: Asking Skinner to waive the clause was Adams' final test: He said "yes", so now Adams has decided he needs to be moved and will pay what it takes Expand Interesting. From Skinner’s perspective I don’t think he would waive unless he were OK with Seattle taking him. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Adams, as part of his reset of the team culture, were trying to work out a deal with Seattle to take him. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:44 PM, nfreeman said: Interesting. From Skinner’s perspective I don’t think he would waive unless he were OK with Seattle taking him. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Adams, as part of his reset of the team culture, were trying to work out a deal with Seattle to take him. Expand I was joking around there playing off the idea of Adams' "only guys who want to be here" thing but I have no doubt Adams would work out a deal if he could. Quote
sabremike Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:44 PM, nfreeman said: Interesting. From Skinner’s perspective I don’t think he would waive unless he were OK with Seattle taking him. And I wouldn’t be surprised if Adams, as part of his reset of the team culture, were trying to work out a deal with Seattle to take him. Expand Unless Ron Francis gets high on ludes the day of the expansion draft there is zero chance Seattle selects him. 2 Quote
Thwomp! Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:23 PM, PromoTheRobot said: I thought Kevyn Adams was too dumb to ask. This totally makes sense. Leave the Sabres to join an expansion team. 👍 Expand It would probably be a pretty even bet as to who will have more points this year, the Sabres or the Kraken. At least in Vegas, not in the Sabres fandom bubble. Quote
nfreeman Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:47 PM, sabremike said: Unless Ron Francis gets high on ludes the day of the expansion draft there is zero chance Seattle selects him. Expand I agree that Seattle won’t take him without the Sabres sweetening the pot, but that could happen, and Skinner might require less sweetening than you think. Maybe if the Sabres swap draft slots with Seattle, plus expose Risto? 2 Quote
Thwomp! Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:00 PM, dudacek said: Fans of Rasmus Asplund and Anders Bjork rejoice! Expand More Asplund. I'm betting he would have been the odd man out and Seattle's choice, without some arrangement being worked out. Quote
dudacek Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:43 PM, JohnC said: His willingness to put himself in jeopardy (as unlikely as it may be) in order to help out the organization could be interpreted that he is bought in to the Granato era. He knows that Granato is a coach that will do everything he can to enhance his play. By allowing himself to be exposed in the upcoming expansion draft he is demonstrating that he wants to take an action that will benefit the team. Expand On 7/14/2021 at 2:44 PM, nfreeman said: Interesting. From Skinner’s perspective I don’t think he would waive unless he were OK with Seattle taking him. Expand While I’m grateful to Jeff, I can’t see any universe where @nfreeman’s statement is not true. 2 Quote
TheAud Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 I think it's even money as to whether Seattle chooses Skinner or not, perhaps with some sweetener from Buffalo. The personal connection between Francis and Skinner cannot be underestimated. Francis may look at Skinner and see the former 40 goal scorer who just needs to be unleashed and he has plenty of cap room to accommodate him, to say the least. Sabres fans keep seeing Skinner under Krueger and suffer from recency bias. 1 Quote
Taro T Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:01 PM, Sakman said: I think it's even money as to whether Seattle chooses Skinner or not, perhaps with some sweetener from Buffalo. The personal connection between Francis and Skinner cannot be underestimated. Francis may look at Skinner and see the former 40 goal scorer who just needs to be unleashed and he has plenty of cap room to accommodate him, to say the least. Sabres fans keep seeing Skinner under Krueger and suffer from recency bias. Expand Why assume Francis & Skinner have a good relationship? Supposedly Brind'amour can't stand Skinner. Could see Francis having a similar take on him. 5 1 Quote
darksabre Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:01 PM, Sakman said: I think it's even money as to whether Seattle chooses Skinner or not, perhaps with some sweetener from Buffalo. The personal connection between Francis and Skinner cannot be underestimated. Francis may look at Skinner and see the former 40 goal scorer who just needs to be unleashed and he has plenty of cap room to accommodate him, to say the least. Sabres fans keep seeing Skinner under Krueger and suffer from recency bias. Expand Skinner was declining before Krueger even got here. 1 Quote
I-90 W Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 Not complaining, but is this benevolence or just another player wanting out? Either way, hope Seattle takes him as that would be amazing for cap space. Quote
steveoath Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 Do you give seattle Pilut's rights and VO to take Skinner? Quote
Eleven Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:16 PM, steveoath said: Do you give seattle Pilut's rights and VO to take Skinner? Expand No. The Sabs want to keep Oloffson and if all the Sabres are going to lose is Miller, it's not worth giving up Pilut. 3 Quote
steveoath Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:18 PM, Eleven said: No. The Sabs want to keep Oloffson and if all the Sabres are going to lose is Miller, it's not worth giving up Pilut. Expand Good point I forgot about Miller. Quote
nfreeman Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 I would give Pilut to Seattle in a heartbeat to take Skinner, but I don’t think that would be enough for them. Quote
TheAud Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:03 PM, Taro T said: Why assume Francis & Skinner have a good relationship? Supposedly Brind'amour can't stand Skinner. Could see Francis having a similar take on him. Expand I'm conjecturing, just like you are. 1 Quote
WildCard Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:21 PM, nfreeman said: I would give Pilut to Seattle in a heartbeat to take Skinner, but I don’t think that would be enough for them. Expand Does Pilut even play for us anymore? 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:01 PM, grinreaper said: Jeff Skinner, most likely doing his team a big favor. Expand This is exactly right. This move proves that he is a real team player here in Buffalo. I can't see anyway that Seattle will take him. This allows the Sabres to protect another forward that they would have to and there is a real risk that player could have been sellected by Seattle. As @LGR4GM noted, there is the distinct possiblility that there is a gentleman's (for now) deal in place for Seattle to select a lesser Dman (likely Miller) in exchange for a law end draft pick. Quote
Zamboni Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 1:59 PM, Eleven said: Doubt it. Huge contract. But it does mean that the Sabres can protect one more forward. Expand This is exactly what I was thinking. There’s no way Seattle would take him and his fat bloated crazy contract. but I am glad it allows us to protect one more Player. 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 2:06 PM, dudacek said: If the Sabres had a deal in place why would the Skinner move be necessary? Expand The deal came about after getting Jeff to waive. Quote
sabrefanday1 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 I suspect KA has already talked to Seattle and knows (and has assured Sklnner) that they have no intention of taking him. This really helps though! Either way it is a win-win so good move by KA.. 3 Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:22 PM, WildCard said: Does Pilut even play for us anymore? Expand KHL but we have his rights. 2 Quote
SDS Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:31 PM, sabrefanday1 said: I suspect KA has already talked to Seattle and knows (and has assured Sklnner) that they have no intention of taking him. This really helps though! Either way it is a win-win so good move by KA.. Expand you think Seattle is helping the Sabres protect more desirable players? 1 Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/14/2021 at 3:32 PM, SDS said: you think Seattle is helping the Sabres protect more desirable players? Expand This is a good question and on the surface it does seem odd for them to do that, but yes. The Sabres do not have many really desirable players, so Seattle will have to take someone basically to fill a roster spot. There are other teams that will not be able to protect much more desirable players and Seattle will take as many of those as possibe. I think that makes sense, but maybe only to me ... lol!! 1 Quote
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