Brawndo Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/sun-exclusive-senators-bringing-back-pierre-mcguire-and-his-30-years-of-nhl-knowledge-to-assist-the-front-office 1 Quote
Curt Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 If it keeps him off of broadcasts, then I’m all for this hire. I don’t see how he is qualified to be honest. He hasn’t worked for an NHL team for 25 years. His highest level experience for an NHL team is one year as Assistant GM/Head Coach of the Hartford Whalers. Being on television hockey broadcasts is not equivalent to NHL front office experience. 4 Quote
Zamboni Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 Well at least he’ll be knowledgeable as to where all the Ottawa Senators players father‘s sister‘s cousin‘s mother went to high school. And not to mention he’ll also know the Ottawa Senators players favorite ice cream flavors. and if they like beaver tails. 1 6 Quote
LabattBlue Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Curt said: If it keeps him off of broadcasts, then I’m all for this hire. I don’t see how he is qualified to be honest. He hasn’t worked for an NHL team for 25 years. His highest level experience for an NHL team is one year as Assistant GM/Head Coach of the Hartford Whalers. Being on television hockey broadcasts is not equivalent to NHL front office experience. Is Pierre a worse choice for a FO job, than hiring a guy from a youth hockey academy to be your GM? Edited July 12, 2021 by LabattBlue 2 3 Quote
Curt Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 50 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Is Pierre a worse choice for a FO job, than hiring a guy from a youth hockey academy to be your GM? Actually, yeah, I think so. 24 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Always seeing the negative. I looked at the positive. It keeps him off of broadcasts. 1 Quote
FogBat Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Curt said: If it keeps him off of broadcasts, then I’m all for this hire. I don’t see how he is qualified to be honest. He hasn’t worked for an NHL team for 25 years. His highest level experience for an NHL team is one year as Assistant GM/Head Coach of the Hartford Whalers. Being on television hockey broadcasts is not equivalent to NHL front office experience. 2 hours ago, Zamboni said: Well at least he’ll be knowledgeable as to where all the Ottawa Senators players father‘s sister‘s cousin‘s mother went to high school. And not to mention he’ll also know the Ottawa Senators players favorite ice cream flavors. and if they like beaver tails. 1 hour ago, PASabreFan said: Always seeing the negative. Don't worry, guys. Look on the bright side: he gives us a chance to hate that team even more. Now, if only he'd been hired by the Leafs or the Rangers... Also, another positive: he’ll eventually get fired. Count on it. Quote
SDS Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: Is Pierre a worse choice for a FO job, than hiring a guy from a youth hockey academy to be your GM? Would including recent former Stanley Cup champion have been too generous to add? I mean if you’re going to denigrate his meager qualifications, at least be honest about what they are. Quote
FogBat Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SDS said: Would including recent former Stanley Cup champion have been too generous to add? I mean if you’re going to denigrate his meager qualifications, at least be honest about what they are. Good point. After all, if I'm not mistaken,some HHOF members have been dead to the world by choice (instead of staying involved in the sport in whatever capacity). Addendum: in retrospect, I know I was highly critical of Darcy Regier, especially since I had mocked his cup of coffee playing career. Laugh at me if you want, but he was a pretty decent GM FTMP. Also, on-ice success doesn't always translate into positive coaching/FO results, i.e. Wayne Gretzky. Edited July 12, 2021 by Crosschecking Addendum Quote
Stoner Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, SDS said: Would including recent former Stanley Cup champion have been too generous to add? I mean if you’re going to denigrate his meager qualifications, at least be honest about what they are. It's a stretch to say that winning a Cup as a player is a qualification for being a GM. Sabres GM Miro Satan anyone? Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 lol, "Senior VP of Player Development" Good luck with that Ottawa. Quote
Flashsabre Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 Here comes Phanuef out of retirement!😜 Quote
PerreaultForever Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: lol, "Senior VP of Player Development" Good luck with that Ottawa. idk, I don't share the dislike for the guy seen around here. I'm not sure how good he will be in that role, but he's a knowledgeable hockey guy who has made numerous connections over the years. Could be worse. So far Ottawa's rebuild is moving much faster than ours so I'm not going to criticize them. I actually think we need to do what they did (so far). 1 Quote
SDS Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, PASabreFan said: It's a stretch to say that winning a Cup as a player is a qualification for being a GM. Sabres GM Miro Satan anyone? Maybe the definition of meager escapes you. I was a youth hockey coach for a year. Let’s just leave it at that. Quote
LabattBlue Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 6 hours ago, SDS said: Would including recent former Stanley Cup champion have been too generous to add? I mean if you’re going to denigrate his meager qualifications, at least be honest about what they are. You can include that. I didn’t ignore it intentionally. Just don’t know what it has to do with being hired to be an NHL GM. Quote
Taro T Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 13 hours ago, Brawndo said: https://ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/ottawa-senators/sun-exclusive-senators-bringing-back-pierre-mcguire-and-his-30-years-of-nhl-knowledge-to-assist-the-front-office As others have mentioned, as long as it keeps him off the national broadcasts, am good with it. Don't get why he's to help w/ player development. Didn't foresee this move, but could've seen it as more of a role interacting w/ the league & other teams. The guy has contacts in those places. But the Whale has been gone a loooong time & his need to keep up evaluation/development skills has been long past. HHopefully it's as effective as bring Gretzky into a hands on management role has worked in the past. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 7:57 AM, LabattBlue said: Is Pierre a worse choice for a FO job, than hiring a guy from a youth hockey academy to be your GM? Yes. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 22 hours ago, Crosschecking said: on-ice success doesn't always translate into positive coaching/FO results, i.e. Wayne Gretzky. But it might, i.e. Yzerman. 1 Quote
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