Official Sam Ventura Hired as VP of Hockey Strategy and Research

[darksabre]

1 hour ago, Mustache of God said:

I wonder what those pay.

Based on the job descriptions, which seem to require quite a bit of experience and skill, probably about $50k.

[WildCard]

3 minutes ago, darksabre said:

Based on the job descriptions, which seem to require quite a bit of experience and skill, probably about $50k.

I would double that number for this. $50k for a dev is extremely cheap, and those are straight out of college devs.

[Doohicksie]

Okay, who are the fancy status gurus on SS?  Who's gonna apply?

[WildCard]

15 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Okay, who are the fancy status gurus on SS?  Who's gonna apply?

I might

[darksabre]

17 minutes ago, WildCard said:

I would double that number for this. $50k for a dev is extremely cheap, and those are straight out of college devs.

I was trying to make a joke lol

[rakish]

3 minutes ago, darksabre said:

I was trying to make a joke lol

I was going to laugh, but decided against it

[Stoner]

I heard 750k.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

1 hour ago, PASabreFan said:

I heard 750k.

That number seems to be stuck in an unclosed loop and every single hire has to be paid that.

Goalie.  Yup $750K

Forward ... $750K

Dman ... sorry we wanted to do $800K, but can't ... $750K it is

Rip ... chz ... PA ... Charlie ... everyone!! 

$750K

[triumph_communes]

Decent Data scientists easily cost 150k+, but cut that in half because sports 

[inkman]

2 hours ago, Norcal said:

So does this make people happy? Will this new department lead to better players in the system? 

Not even a little.  Holy decade too late Batman.  They will be playing catch up for years. 

[PromoTheRobot]

48 minutes ago, inkman said:

Not even a little.  Holy decade too late Batman.  They will be playing catch up for years. 

Okay. We're too far behind. So let's stop trying.

[Stoner]

Why would they hire an official to be VP of hockey strategy?

Nice going, Ter, you lunkhead.

[Curt]

7 hours ago, Norcal said:

So does this make people happy? Will this new department lead to better players in the system? 

This will result in more information available to decision makers.  In the right hands that should lead to better decisions being made.  If it’s in the wrong hands, then they will probably mess things up with or without this additional information.

It can’t hurt, so, yeah, it makes me happier.

[Ducky]

On 7/5/2021 at 10:52 AM, darksabre said:

Wouldn't it be something if the Sabres gutting everything down to the studs and then building it back up actually worked? 

That takes a lot of patience from the fans ... and management too.

[Pimlach]

On 8/16/2021 at 1:34 PM, Norcal said:

So does this make people happy? Will this new department lead to better players in the system? 

The new department will lead to more data.  Maybe better data.  It will still require people that know how to use the data and better decision making than we have had in the past.  

Edited September 8, 2021 by Pimlach

[Happy Days]

They should hire someone from an Ivy League school.

 

[inkman]

2 hours ago, Happy Days said:

They should hire someone from an Ivy League school.

 

Like Ventura?

[dudacek]

Interesting how the Sabres hockey department is changing.

 

MAY 2020 (36)

Senior executives: 4

Botterill, Sexton, Greeley, Jakubowski

Scouts: 20

AMATEUR: Jankowski (head amateur), Crisp, Banika, Cocker, Ferner, Fingal, Halpenny, Hansch, O'Connor, Pyette, Tiesling, Welin, Forton, Devine, Dunne, Musil, Riley PRO: Van Boxmeer, Beamish, Crowe

Coaches: 11

BUF: Krueger, Smith, Granato, Bales, ROC: Taylor, Dineen, Peterson DEV: Komisarek, Barch, Mair, Kotyk

Data analysts: 1

Nightingale

 

AFTER THE TWO NEW ANALYTICS JOBS ARE FILLED (29)

Senior executives: 3

Adams, Karmanos, Jakubowski

Scouts: 8

Forton (head amateur), Crowe (head pro), Devine, Dunne, Musil, Forsberg, Beamish, Musser

Coaches: 14

BUF: Granato, Bales, Christie, Ellis, Wilford, ROC: Appert, Weber, Peca DEV: Mair, Kennedy, Paetsch, Girardi, Ansell, Kotyk

Data analysts: 4

Ventura, Nightingale, 2 more hirings TBA

 

They've trimmed their scouting department by 12 bodies (and don't seem to differentiate between pro and amateur any more), but added three each to the coaching and analytics departments.

[dudacek]

So I created a new thread a week ago after reading this story, but it seems to have disappeared?

https://www.kelownacapnews.com/sports/okanagan-nhl-scout-moves-from-red-wings-to-sabres/

 

At any rate, I note the subject of the story is not listed on the Sabres staff page yet, but the other new scout mentioned, Lukas Sutter, is, along with another new name, Tommy Vesanen, a Finn who scouted last year for Adler Mannheim of the German Elite League. 
 

Officially up to 10 scouts now, plus, Forton and Crowe.

Edited September 8, 2021 by dudacek

[Doohicksie]

Maybe getting rid of all the old scouts was more about getting rid of the old scouts than about cost saving.  Maybe it was felt that they'd overstayed their welcome.

[JohnC]

14 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Maybe getting rid of all the old scouts was more about getting rid of the old scouts than about cost saving.  Maybe it was felt that they'd overstayed their welcome.

Aren't scouts mostly on one year contracts? I'm not talking about the head of the department but the scouts who do the leg work. 

[Norcal]

 

[Brawndo]

 

[Brawndo]

https://youtu.be/LhzxO3K5oX8

Great Interview with Sam Ventura 

Edited December 16, 2021 by Brawndo

[LGR4GM]

This is a fantastic interview and Ventura is a great listen. 

8 hours ago, Brawndo said:

Great Interview with Sam Ventura