Doohickie Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 12:40 AM, Randall Flagg said: If Italy doesn't have a history to be proud of then nobody does lol Expand I'm reading a Roman history at the moment.... Pax Romana involved a lot of bloodshed. Quote
Sabel79 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 12:40 AM, Randall Flagg said: If Italy doesn't have a history to be proud of then nobody does lol Expand Not to be that guy (no, that’s a lie, I’m rolling around in the opportunity to be that guy right now) but Italy as an idea, let alone a country really doesn’t have much of a history at all… Lincoln was president when it happened… the “I’m not Italian I’m Sicilian” mindset is, honestly, much closer to reality than lumping them together with the blond dudes in the Alps…. 2 Quote
Eleven Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/15/2021 at 7:29 PM, inkman said: I don’t know a single Italian person who refers to themselves as anything other than Italian first. No culture is more proud of their heritage than Italians. Misguided as that may be. Expand All four of my grandparents were Italian and I am very definitely American. Quote
inkman Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 5:22 PM, Sabel79 said: Not to be that guy (no, that’s a lie, I’m rolling around in the opportunity to be that guy right now) but Italy as an idea, let alone a country really doesn’t have much of a history at all… Lincoln was president when it happened… the “I’m not Italian I’m Sicilian” mindset is, honestly, much closer to reality than lumping them together with the blond dudes in the Alps…. Expand Quote
Rasmus_ Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 Tocchet supposedly the preference in Seattle. I have no clue why, he's never really showed much in Arizona and Tampa Bay, but that's fine. I have no interest in a Tocchet run Sabres team. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) On 6/16/2021 at 5:22 PM, Sabel79 said: Not to be that guy (no, that’s a lie, I’m rolling around in the opportunity to be that guy right now) but Italy as an idea, let alone a country really doesn’t have much of a history at all… Lincoln was president when it happened… the “I’m not Italian I’m Sicilian” mindset is, honestly, much closer to reality than lumping them together with the blond dudes in the Alps…. Expand Yeah I was referring more to the ethnic group(s?) that can trace ancestry through some of the greatest heights of civilization than the explicit nation state of Italy as we know it today Edited June 16, 2021 by Randall Flagg Quote
Sabel79 Posted June 16, 2021 Report Posted June 16, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 6:46 PM, Randall Flagg said: Yeah I was referring more to the ethnic group than the explicit nation state of Italy Expand Quote
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