Sabres' options: Owen Power

[LGR4GM]

2 hours ago, pi2000 said:

And if Beniers was 6'4, 215 he'd be consensus #1.   

But that's not the case, in this universe Power if big and has a crazy reach which he uses to his advantage to defend.... so yeah, it matters.

 

2 hours ago, dudacek said:

This seems to be overlooked in the discussing about the value of size. It's not all about overpowering people, it's also about covering real estate, picking pockets and being hard to get around.

I'm not sure I would call Power "hard to get around". Reach only matters so much and just like another big forward, once teams adjust to your reach what then? Myers effectively was neutralized after teams realized they should just play the pucks into his feet and pressure him. 

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[Hoss]

Just now, LGR4GM said:

 

I'm not sure I would call Power "hard to get around". Reach only matters so much and just like another big forward, once teams adjust to your reach what then? Myers effectively sucked after teams realized they should just play the pucks into his feet and pressure him. 

You don’t have to contradict every good thing said about Power. His reach is a very strong skill and several scouting reports mention that he disposes of many zone entries and offensive opportunities because of his stick play.

[LGR4GM]

2 minutes ago, Hoss said:

You don’t have to contradict every good thing said about Power. His reach is a very strong skill and several scouting reports mention that he disposes of many zone entries and offensive opportunities because of his stick play.

 

[Rasmus_]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Here's the Kent Johnson highlight package. He's a very skilled player.

 

If you trade down, sure.  The same with Eklund, who I think is just as skilled. 

[inkman]

Only the Sabres can draft two defenseman 1st overall in a five year span and not get a difference maker.  

[LabattBlue]

5 hours ago, pi2000 said:

Kent Johnson has more skill than Beniers IMO.   

Beniers was the 3rd leading scorer on Michigan.  I do like his game alot, but he's not a can't miss elite forward prospect... he could very easily be the next Drew Stafford or Brian Holzinger.

So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>?

[pi2000]

Just now, LabattBlue said:

So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>?

NO

His floor his higher.

🙂

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[ubkev]

 

[sabremike]

23 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>?

Sir do you realize that the path to success in the NHL is by acquiring many many giraffes?

Note that it rhymes with Power.

[bob_sauve28]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

Only the Sabres can draft two defenseman 1st overall in a five year span and not get a difference maker.  

Defenseman take longer to develop usually. 

[Claude Balls]

1 hour ago, ubkev said:

 

In other words, no ***** way I'm going to Buffalo

[ubkev]

Just now, Claude Balls said:

In other words, no ***** way I'm going to Buffalo

Is his family loaded? Can he forego almost 4 million bucks to sit out until he graduates? 

Stay at Michigan for 3 more years. Come into the league as a free agent. I believe that drops his ELC to a 2 year deal, then he's an RFA for how many more years? 

Lol, it's fun to catastrophize.(is that a word?)

[Gatorman0519]

20 minutes ago, Claude Balls said:

In other words, no ***** way I'm going to Buffalo

Yeah he’s just saying that to scare off the Sabres. 

[Flashsabre]

He has already said he would enjoy being drafted by Buffalo.

 

He was mentioning going back to Michigan about a month  ago so this isn’t anything new.  It would be best for him anyways. He has things to work on and 18 year old dmen don’t fare well in the NHL.

[inkman]

6 hours ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Defenseman take longer to develop usually. 

[LGR4GM]

15 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

So if Beniers could easily be the next Holzinger, can Power easily end up being the next <insert name of dman over 6’5” who ended up being a bust>?

Power won't bust. He's smart and works hard to tune his game. 

15 hours ago, ubkev said:

 

Smart kid. Know your weaknesses and how to fix them. 

[bob_sauve28]

9 hours ago, inkman said:

Dahlin is a bust? Ok! 

[LGR4GM]

31 minutes ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Dahlin is a bust? Ok! 

Funny you should be joking about that...

 

[bob_sauve28]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

Funny you should be joking about that...

 

But not a difference maker! Right? 21 years old? Bust!

[French Collection]

1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said:

But not a difference maker! Right? 21 years old? Bust!

I don’t hear about Heiskanen alternating the Norris trophy with Makar for the next 12 years anymore. He took a step back and may return to that path.

Dahlin is ready for a breakout year offensively. He needs the HC to let him roam and pair him with a responsible partner. More puck possession time for him means fewer defensive issues. Hardly anyone remembers how bad Leetch was at defense because he was a point producing machine. I think Dahlin can be better than Leetch defensively but to blossom he needs to be a rover.

[Brawndo]

 

[LGR4GM]

As long as they develop him slowly by sending him back to Michigan, I think they'll get a good player. 

[JohnC]

31 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

As long as they develop him slowly by sending him back to Michigan, I think they'll get a good player. 

After one more year in college he will be ready to make the jump to the NHL and contribute immediately. That doesn't mean that he will be a top two pairing player in his first year but he will be worthy of a roster spot. 

(I've listened to at least three draft analysts and they all made the point that going back to school would even in the short term accelerate his development as a pro player. As you noted going back to school is the smart way to handle him. 

[steveoath]

If we do pick Power, and if he plays well enough for a call up at seasons end. How many games does he (or any other similarly positioned prospect) get before a year of ELC is burned?

[Crusader1969]

1 hour ago, steveoath said:

If we do pick Power, and if he plays well enough for a call up at seasons end. How many games does he (or any other similarly positioned prospect) get before a year of ELC is burned?

its usually part of the deal that the 1st year of the ELC gets burnt