thewookie1 Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 How do you guys see this scenario https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2546177 Eichel for 2 1sts (the 2nd has conditions) Hague, Tuch, Krebs and Smith Schmidt had a down year but is an overall good Dman with an upbeat and positive demeanor. Ladd is buried with the choice of working something front office related. We grab Cernak & Johnson for Bryson, Smith(50%), BOS's 2nd and MTL's 5th Dvorak is acquired for VGK's 1st and Olofsson Our D group look like Dahlin - Cernak Schmidt - Jokiharju Hague - Borgen Del Zotto Quote
tom webster Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Hoss said: I wrote that knowing he wasn’t much older but didn’t bother to google the age difference. I thought it was a little wider than that but I stand corrected. But the contract portion doesn’t change and is the more important part of it. Jones has had the big contract. Samson has not. I stand by the point that you’ve got more control acquiring an RFA who you have to negotiate with anyways vs a player with one year left before UFA who has no reason to negotiate anything. Again, how does Jones have “no reason to negotiate anything” differ from Sam? They are both completely free after this year. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 16 hours ago, tom webster said: You implied in another thread that older fans look at certain things in the same way do let me fo likewise with fans if your age. You tend to think you know what motivates everyone using your own wishes and desires. As you get older you realize that everyone has their own wishes and desires. Ironically, in this case both Jones and Sam seem to want the same thing, to return to their hometown or at least a place they are familiar with. For Jones, that’s Colorado. For Sam it’s Northern Canada. Another thing, Jones is only thirteen months older than Sam. Southern Canada but yes 1 Quote
sabresparaavida Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 5 hours ago, tom webster said: Again, how does Jones have “no reason to negotiate anything” differ from Sam? They are both completely free after this year. Because Sam still has to negotiate a contract for this year, and might not get as much money if he doesn’t sign for longer. Quote
tom webster Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 59 minutes ago, sabresparaavida said: Because Sam still has to negotiate a contract for this year, and might not get as much money if he doesn’t sign for longer. He can just accept his qualifying offer which will put him above where teams are offering long term deals. Quote
tom webster Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Thorny said: Southern Canada but yes Actually meant to put “western.” 1 Quote
Kr632 Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Duncan Keith to oilers. For Caleb Jones and conditional 3rd Edited July 12, 2021 by Kr632 Quote
Norcal Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 12 hours ago, thewookie1 said: How do you guys see this scenario https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2546177 Eichel for 2 1sts (the 2nd has conditions) Hague, Tuch, Krebs and Smith Schmidt had a down year but is an overall good Dman with an upbeat and positive demeanor. Ladd is buried with the choice of working something front office related. We grab Cernak & Johnson for Bryson, Smith(50%), BOS's 2nd and MTL's 5th Dvorak is acquired for VGK's 1st and Olofsson Our D group look like Dahlin - Cernak Schmidt - Jokiharju Hague - Borgen Del Zotto I like your posts on this subject. I'd love to see some creative player movement this offseason and if it's done right I don't see why it couldn't lead to a better on ice product. I'm optimistic the new regime can get it done. Until they prove unable, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Quote
kas23 Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 It’s amazing we could’ve had Jake Allen for a 3rd and a 7th. Instead, we sat on our hands. Could’ve used him this past season. Quote
Rasmus_ Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 Just now, LGR4GM said: If one year of Jones includes that, then I want Dach #12, Boqvist and Reichel. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 32 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Why does friedmann provide such absurd and outlandish speculation in favor of CBJ and Jones while hemming and hawing over a much better Sabre skater who is locked up for 5 times as long? 1 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 2 hours ago, kas23 said: It’s amazing we could’ve had Jake Allen for a 3rd and a 7th. Instead, we sat on our hands. Could’ve used him this past season. Jake Allen’s performance wasn’t worth a 3rd and a 7th last season but we could probably get him for a 3rd or 4th right now if we want. Montreal will want to avoid losing him for nothing. Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Jake Allen’s performance wasn’t worth a 3rd and a 7th last season but we could probably get him for a 3rd or 4th right now if we want. Montreal will want to avoid losing him for nothing. Send them back their 3rd? Quote
inkman Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 10:53 AM, JohnC said: I agree with you that if there is a tacit agreement to sign an extension the return will be higher. However, there is an assumption that where Samson is dealt to is a place he wants to go to. That in itself limits the market and also the potential for a return. As he is an RFA, any team can speak with his agent allowing that extension and desired location to all be in place. 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, thewookie1 said: Send them back their 3rd? I wouldn’t because we can get just as capable goalies on a bloated UFA market for free Quote
kas23 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Randall Flagg said: Why does friedmann provide such absurd and outlandish speculation in favor of CBJ and Jones while hemming and hawing over a much better Sabre skater who is locked up for 5 times as long? “Alex, I’ll take things reporters do to get future scoops for $1000 please” Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2555282 Here's a team I thought of based on MIN's fan trade + Zucc for money purposes. Quote
Brawndo Posted July 16, 2021 Author Report Posted July 16, 2021 Listening live it sounds like something might be close with Risto 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) Just imagine what would happen if Buffalo got a 1st+ for Risto; the heads on the HF boards and CapFriendly would literally explode. Edited July 16, 2021 by thewookie1 4 Quote
inkman Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Just imagine what would happen if Buffalo got a 1st+ for Risto; the heads on the HF boards and CapFriendly would literally explode. And the return for Eichel is somehow worse 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 Just now, inkman said: And the return for Eichel is somehow worse Don't even allude to such a horrid idea Quote
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