Thwomp! Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 5 hours ago, LGR4GM said: So you are trading Jones for Risto? Okay fine but what other level of trading do we match up with them? They've arguably got at least 3 goalies that are better than ours, they've got tons of draft capital including 3 firsts this year, they do have some talent and are a better team than us, and they need high end forwards. They also need to change things up. 1 Quote
Thwomp! Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Thorny said: I could really see them doing Reinhart, Risto for Jones, Merzlikins I think Columbus would have to add, but yeah, I think there's a few scenarios for trades between us and them. Quote
freester Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Thorny said: I could really see them doing Reinhart, Risto for Jones, Merzlikins That would be an atrocious trade for us. Jones is overrated and wouldn’t sign with us anyway. Reinhart probably wouldn’t want to sign an extension with Columbus Quote
Ducky Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Thorny said: You think Marner is a 7.9 mil player, or less? Pacing for 96 points per over the last two years (93, 100)? So like in line with what Ryan Johansen and Matt Duchene make? I wouldn't give him more than 8m is what I'm saying yes. Because Duchene RyJo are over paid does not make it okay to overpay Marner. Quote
Thorner Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ducky said: I wouldn't give him more than 8m is what I'm saying yes. Because Duchene RyJo are over paid does not make it okay to overpay Marner. You want to give a top 5 scorer in the NHL 8 mil. Ok. Good luck tonight 1 Quote
Ducky Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: You want to give a top 5 scorer in the NHL 8 mil. Ok. Good luck tonight We have one of the best goal scorers in the league making 7.14m abd Scheif at 6.125m and Ehlers (arguably as good as Marner) at 6m. Helle at 6.17m. You don't build a contender by overpaying people...just look at TO and the Coilers. Quote
Thorner Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ducky said: We have one of the best goal scorers in the league making 7.14m abd Scheif at 6.125m and Ehlers (arguably as good as Marner) at 6m. Helle at 6.17m. You don't build a contender by overpaying people...just look at TO and the Coilers. A) the jets are not close to a contender b) scheifele is one of the best contracts in the league, it's not representative of what you can expect in signings Also Ehlers isn't arguably as good as Marner come on Edited June 2, 2021 by Thorny Quote
Ducky Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: Also Ehlers isn't arguably as good as Marner come on If you believe in anaytics, he is better actually. Quote
Thorner Posted June 2, 2021 Report Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Ducky said: If you believe in anaytics, he is better actually. I "believe" in them, yes. No, he's not close to Marner. Also Marner had 34% more points than Connor this year and Connor is up over 7 Edited June 2, 2021 by Thorny Quote
Ducky Posted June 3, 2021 Report Posted June 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, Thorny said: I "believe" in them, yes. No, he's not close to Marner. Also Marner had 34% more points than Connor this year and Connor is up over 7 Sometime tomorrow I will post some Ehlers vs. Marner analytics. Too busy watching my team suck. Quote
Thorner Posted June 3, 2021 Report Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Ducky said: Sometime tomorrow I will post some Ehlers vs. Marner analytics. Too busy watching my team suck. Don't bother. I am familiar. I don't care. Quote
Ducky Posted June 3, 2021 Report Posted June 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Thorny said: Don't bother. I am familiar. I don't care. If you believe in them, you'd know they favor Ehlers... I forgot about Lowry's contract...5 x 3.25 starts next season. Another good contract. Quote
Norcal Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Please bring him to Buffalo!!!!! 1 Quote
klos1963 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/2/2021 at 4:34 PM, Thwomp! said: They've arguably got at least 3 goalies that are better than ours, they've got tons of draft capital including 3 firsts this year, they do have some talent and are a better team than us, and they need high end forwards. They also need to change things up. What team doesn't have at least 3 goalies better than ours? We have no NHL level goalies on the roster. 1 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Reinhart for Tkachuk anyone? I'd rather keep Reinhart but if he's determined to leave then sure. 4 Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Reinhart for Tkachuk anyone? I'd rather keep Reinhart but if he's determined to leave then sure. Hard not to see this as the most obvious trade market pairing 4 Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: Reinhart for Tkachuk anyone? I'd rather keep Reinhart but if he's determined to leave then sure. 2 minutes ago, Randall Flagg said: Hard not to see this as the most obvious trade market pairing Yea it makes a lot of sense. Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 What would you think we'd extend Tkachuk for? I wouldn't trade for him without 1 1 Quote
Curt Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 5 hours ago, thewookie1 said: What would you think we'd extend Tkachuk for? I wouldn't trade for him without 1 If it’s Reinhart for Tkachuk then both teams are kind of in the same boat. I don’t think Tkachuk is eligible for an extension yet anyway. Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: If it’s Reinhart for Tkachuk then both teams are kind of in the same boat. I don’t think Tkachuk is eligible for an extension yet anyway. He's 1 year left with his contract as the season year changes over. So he should be able to discuss extensions. Quote
Curt Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, thewookie1 said: He's 1 year left with his contract as the season year changes over. So he should be able to discuss extensions. Yeah, whatever the UFA date is, would be when he would be eligible for an extension. Quote
Buffalonill Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 Paying Tkachuk 9 million a year isn't a smart decision when you don't have a franchise center or a first liner. 3 Quote
Brawndo Posted June 22, 2021 Author Report Posted June 22, 2021 L 14 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Paying Tkachuk 9 million a year isn't a smart decision when you don't have a franchise center or a first liner. Especially when they already have a LW getting paid 9 million. Having two taking up 18 million, is not the best use of cap space, particularly on this team. 2 1 Quote
Curt Posted June 22, 2021 Report Posted June 22, 2021 47 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Paying Tkachuk 9 million a year isn't a smart decision when you don't have a franchise center or a first liner. I agree, and it is likely to go that way with Tkachuk, but it doesn’t need to. He could sign a long term contract for less. That said, it does seem that Tkachuk has his course charted for UFA in 2 years. Quote
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