thewookie1 Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 How do you guys see this scenario https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2546177 Eichel for 2 1sts (the 2nd has conditions) Hague, Tuch, Krebs and Smith Schmidt had a down year but is an overall good Dman with an upbeat and positive demeanor. Ladd is buried with the choice of working something front office related. We grab Cernak & Johnson for Bryson, Smith(50%), BOS's 2nd and MTL's 5th Dvorak is acquired for VGK's 1st and Olofsson Our D group look like Dahlin - Cernak Schmidt - Jokiharju Hague - Borgen Del Zotto Quote
tom webster Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 12:43 AM, Hoss said: I wrote that knowing he wasn’t much older but didn’t bother to google the age difference. I thought it was a little wider than that but I stand corrected. But the contract portion doesn’t change and is the more important part of it. Jones has had the big contract. Samson has not. I stand by the point that you’ve got more control acquiring an RFA who you have to negotiate with anyways vs a player with one year left before UFA who has no reason to negotiate anything. Expand Again, how does Jones have “no reason to negotiate anything” differ from Sam? They are both completely free after this year. 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 11:15 PM, tom webster said: You implied in another thread that older fans look at certain things in the same way do let me fo likewise with fans if your age. You tend to think you know what motivates everyone using your own wishes and desires. As you get older you realize that everyone has their own wishes and desires. Ironically, in this case both Jones and Sam seem to want the same thing, to return to their hometown or at least a place they are familiar with. For Jones, that’s Colorado. For Sam it’s Northern Canada. Another thing, Jones is only thirteen months older than Sam. Expand Southern Canada but yes 1 Quote
sabresparaavida Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 11:10 AM, tom webster said: Again, how does Jones have “no reason to negotiate anything” differ from Sam? They are both completely free after this year. Expand Because Sam still has to negotiate a contract for this year, and might not get as much money if he doesn’t sign for longer. Quote
tom webster Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 4:51 PM, sabresparaavida said: Because Sam still has to negotiate a contract for this year, and might not get as much money if he doesn’t sign for longer. Expand He can just accept his qualifying offer which will put him above where teams are offering long term deals. Quote
tom webster Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 4:05 PM, Thorny said: Southern Canada but yes Expand Actually meant to put “western.” 1 Quote
Kr632 Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) Duncan Keith to oilers. For Caleb Jones and conditional 3rd Edited July 12, 2021 by Kr632 Quote
Norcal Posted July 12, 2021 Report Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/12/2021 at 6:40 AM, thewookie1 said: How do you guys see this scenario https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2546177 Eichel for 2 1sts (the 2nd has conditions) Hague, Tuch, Krebs and Smith Schmidt had a down year but is an overall good Dman with an upbeat and positive demeanor. Ladd is buried with the choice of working something front office related. We grab Cernak & Johnson for Bryson, Smith(50%), BOS's 2nd and MTL's 5th Dvorak is acquired for VGK's 1st and Olofsson Our D group look like Dahlin - Cernak Schmidt - Jokiharju Hague - Borgen Del Zotto Expand I like your posts on this subject. I'd love to see some creative player movement this offseason and if it's done right I don't see why it couldn't lead to a better on ice product. I'm optimistic the new regime can get it done. Until they prove unable, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Quote
kas23 Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 It’s amazing we could’ve had Jake Allen for a 3rd and a 7th. Instead, we sat on our hands. Could’ve used him this past season. Quote
Rasmus_ Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 10:36 PM, LGR4GM said: Expand If one year of Jones includes that, then I want Dach #12, Boqvist and Reichel. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 10:36 PM, LGR4GM said: Expand Why does friedmann provide such absurd and outlandish speculation in favor of CBJ and Jones while hemming and hawing over a much better Sabre skater who is locked up for 5 times as long? 1 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 8:19 PM, kas23 said: It’s amazing we could’ve had Jake Allen for a 3rd and a 7th. Instead, we sat on our hands. Could’ve used him this past season. Expand Jake Allen’s performance wasn’t worth a 3rd and a 7th last season but we could probably get him for a 3rd or 4th right now if we want. Montreal will want to avoid losing him for nothing. Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 11:17 PM, Hoss said: Jake Allen’s performance wasn’t worth a 3rd and a 7th last season but we could probably get him for a 3rd or 4th right now if we want. Montreal will want to avoid losing him for nothing. Expand Send them back their 3rd? Quote
inkman Posted July 13, 2021 Report Posted July 13, 2021 On 7/11/2021 at 2:53 PM, JohnC said: I agree with you that if there is a tacit agreement to sign an extension the return will be higher. However, there is an assumption that where Samson is dealt to is a place he wants to go to. That in itself limits the market and also the potential for a return. Expand As he is an RFA, any team can speak with his agent allowing that extension and desired location to all be in place. 1 Quote
Hoss Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 11:18 PM, thewookie1 said: Send them back their 3rd? Expand I wouldn’t because we can get just as capable goalies on a bloated UFA market for free Quote
kas23 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 11:11 PM, Randall Flagg said: Why does friedmann provide such absurd and outlandish speculation in favor of CBJ and Jones while hemming and hawing over a much better Sabre skater who is locked up for 5 times as long? Expand “Alex, I’ll take things reporters do to get future scoops for $1000 please” Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Posted July 14, 2021 https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/2555282 Here's a team I thought of based on MIN's fan trade + Zucc for money purposes. Quote
Brawndo Posted July 16, 2021 Author Report Posted July 16, 2021 Listening live it sounds like something might be close with Risto 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) Just imagine what would happen if Buffalo got a 1st+ for Risto; the heads on the HF boards and CapFriendly would literally explode. Edited July 16, 2021 by thewookie1 4 Quote
inkman Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 3:55 PM, thewookie1 said: Just imagine what would happen if Buffalo got a 1st+ for Risto; the heads on the HF boards and CapFriendly would literally explode. Expand And the return for Eichel is somehow worse 1 Quote
thewookie1 Posted July 16, 2021 Report Posted July 16, 2021 On 7/16/2021 at 3:57 PM, inkman said: And the return for Eichel is somehow worse Expand Don't even allude to such a horrid idea Quote
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