Taro T Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Thorny said: I'm behind on the stream so apologies. Really like how Granato mentioned how players "share" a lot more, nowadays. With today's generation, young ones need to be heard. The may vocalize things athletes in the past would just bury. Surely players have terrible thoughts about not wanting to remain with their organizations, all the time? Maybe Jack vocalizing it isn't apples to oranges with an athlete of the past vocalizing it. Maybe if you listen he stays, maybe there is hope on that front. I dunno Will watch today's PCs tonight. Am still hoping that Eichel's PC was more about venting & trying to get the team on board with his wish to get the surgery than actually wanting out & beginning the process of burning bridges. Emotions seem to be raw here w/ the fans & we just watch this stuff. These guys lived this debacle of a season. They have to be close to skinned alive raw for these guys. 2 Quote
Brawndo Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, North Buffalo said: On the spine front I am aware of some new surgeries especially for scoliosis involving tethering that is highly successful. Would love to know what kind of new techniques Jack might be considering. Quote
Cascade Youth Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 Lol you can hear emails coming into Adams’ inbox while he’s talking. Quote
PromoTheRobot Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, inkman said: Sounded to me like certain players don’t want to be here and he will expedite the process of making them no longer here. Also, the way he spoke of the “young core” tells me he’s ready to hand the reigns over to Dylan, Casey, Tage and Dahlin. You have to acknowledge what an amazing turnaround we saw that last month or so. The Sabres went from a team that was ready to give up to one that fought back to win games multiple times. And done with a roster half made up of AHL players. It's not lost on me the kids outplayed Hall and Staal while they were here. Edited May 12, 2021 by PromoTheRobot 4 Quote
Curt Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Thorny said: The Staal trade was not "fine". You don't trade for a player to fill the role of your second most important forward position, and get the on-ice return we did, and call it "fine". If we got Staal for free, along with a 3rd round pick, it would still have been an awful move. It's not just about what goes in/what goes out re: a trade. It's the resulting aptitude of the position. The value of the Staal trade was fine. Staal as a 2C solution was not fine. 2 different concepts Quote
Thorner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Taro T said: Will watch today's PCs tonight. Am still hoping that Eichel's PC was more about venting & trying to get the team on board with his wish to get the surgery than actually wanting out & beginning the process of burning bridges. Emotions seem to be raw here w/ the fans & we just watch this stuff. These guys lived this debacle of a season. They have to be close to skinned alive raw for these guys. I agree. Listening my way through it, though, I do think it's likely Eichel and Risto are gone. Sam wore a bills hat, maybe he stays. But even then, his RFA situation really, really makes it tough to keep him. I think he's the one that most likely stays, though, with a LT deal. Dunno the odds. Edited May 12, 2021 by Thorny Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Cascade Youth said: Lol you can hear emails coming into Adams’ inbox while he’s talking. I'll give you some van candy for Eichel... Quote
darksabre Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 I still have no idea if Adams is the right guy for this job, but he's certainly got a good grasp of everything that is going on with the team. It's possible that with Karmanos at his side he can pull this off. His head is in the right place at the very least. Quote
Thorner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Curt said: The value of the Staal trade was fine. Staal as a 2C solution was not fine. 2 different concepts Only the latter matters Quote
SDS Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, darksabre said: I still have no idea if Adams is the right guy for this job, but he's certainly got a good grasp of everything that is going on with the team. It's possible that with Karmanos at his side he can pull this off. His head is in the right place at the very least. He has good bones. Just not the experience to flesh out the details. 3 Quote
Stoner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, darksabre said: I still have no idea if Adams is the right guy for this job, but he's certainly got a good grasp of everything that is going on with the team. It's possible that with Karmanos at his side he can pull this off. His head is in the right place at the very least. It's easy to root for him. What a spot for him to be in. He's either FDR or Truman. Truman's probably a better analogy. Of course the Sabres didn't just win a world championship. 2 Quote
Thorner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, darksabre said: I still have no idea if Adams is the right guy for this job, but he's certainly got a good grasp of everything that is going on with the team. It's possible that with Karmanos at his side he can pull this off. His head is in the right place at the very least. Under a hat in the summer sun, I'd hope 2 Quote
Popular Post SDS Posted May 12, 2021 Popular Post Report Posted May 12, 2021 I’d like to point out, for those who don’t follow, the Bills purged every last disgruntled soul from the roster. Regardless of talent or potential. 12 1 3 Quote
Curt Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, Thorny said: Only the latter matters They both matter. Having SOMEONE to be an adequate 2C is more important though. Quote
Thorner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 Adams seems to have a good grasp of the concept of delegating to people who know more about specific things than he does. I just wish he had more experience to delegate to. I mean COME ON 1 Quote
Taro T Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: You have to acknowledge what an amazing turnaround we saw that last month or so. The Sabres went from a team that was ready to give up to one that fight back to win games multiple times. And done with a roster half made up of AHL players. It's not lost on me the kids outplayed Hall and Staal while they were here. The roster was made up of kids - definitely. Houser was the 2nd oldest player in at least 2 of his starts. But it wasn't 1/2 AHLers. Samuelson & possibly Bryson were AHLers. Ruotsalainen was the only F that can still arguably be considered an AHLer that was getting regular usage. Fogarty, Murray, etc were rotating through a single slot. But Mittelstadt, Thompson, Asplund, Borgen, & Cozens showed they are NHLers. They're just young NHLers. Now, to say the GTing was AHLers after Ullmark went out - 100%. 1 Quote
Stoner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 KA gives a little credence to dysfunction in the medical/performance/training staff. "I asked some tough questions." 2 Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 Adams talking about going over things with ownership makes me want to barf. 4 1 Quote
Thorner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Curt said: They both matter. Having SOMEONE to be an adequate 2C is more important though. The former did not mater because the latter didn't result. The goal wasn't to "find a good trade for Johansson" The goal was to find a 2C. That pursuit failed. The end. Edited May 12, 2021 by Thorny 1 Quote
inkman Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: And Meatballs. Also — reins. I suppose I deserve this 1 Quote
WildCard Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, SDS said: I’d like to point out, for those who don’t follow, the Bills purged every last disgruntled soul from the roster. Regardless of talent or potential. They didn't have anyone nearly comparable to Reinhart or Eichel. Injury plagued Sammy Watkins doesn't count, and Dareus didn't amount to anything after becoming overweight and useless 3 Quote
Trettioåtta Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: The former did not mater because the latter didn't result. The goal wasn't to "find a good trade for Johansson" The goal was to find a 2C. That pursuit failed. The end. Review how hockey professionals saw the trade. The response was broadly Adams pulls a stunner and perfectly fills the 2C role. Adams was wrong - but he was certainly not alone in that boat. 3 Quote
Thorner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 1 minute ago, WildCard said: They didn't have anyone nearly comparable to Reinhart or Eichel. Injury plagued Sammy Watkins doesn't count, and Dareus didn't amount to anything after becoming overweight and useless This is a good point. It's a good theory, a good ideal, but the trade for Jack also has to be adequate. It does have to be both Quote
Gabrielor Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Adams talking about going over things with ownership makes me want to barf. I hope he saved the toughest questions of all for Terry and Kim. Quote
Thorner Posted May 12, 2021 Report Posted May 12, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Trettioåtta said: Review how hockey professionals saw the trade. The response was broadly Adams pulls a stunner and perfectly fills the 2C role. Adams was wrong - but he was certainly not alone in that boat. Can people please stop using the "two wrongs make a right" defense? I do not care if others were also wrong. It doesn't make the move more right. Me being dead wrong about Botterill's bridge to Reinhart at the time, as Ducky pointed out, does not make Botterill's decision more right. It just means I was also wrong Edited May 12, 2021 by Thorny Quote
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