Buffalonill Posted October 1, 2021 Author Report Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: I'm not worried and if he Magically ends up at the pick where Florida's at we'll hit the jackpot . But I'm pretty confident when the year's over with he will be in the top 3 Quote
rakish Posted October 3, 2021 Report Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) So I looked at 16 year olds for the first time. The old system I could do everybody, which was good, new system, not so good (I'm taking some data from here, some data from there, very slow). So I only did 10. Wright didn't play in a league that I grade at 16, but his 15 numbers are really good. Everyone else was well below where I expected. Yurov was 25th among the admittedly random group of 16 year olds I have scored. He sits with a lot of 8th overalls, Rossi's at 23rd, Cozens' at 24th, Newhook's at 26th. Savoie's at 39th, Kemell's at 41st, Cooley's at 42nd, Lambert's at 44th, Slafkovsky's at 80th, Miro... at 88th. Korchinski is 23rd among defensemen, and I haven't graded many defensemen. I expect a few guys to have really great DY years (Kemell looks to be having a great start), but the DY-1 was really weak. Edited October 3, 2021 by rakish There are random letters in Savoie's name Quote
Crusader1969 Posted October 7, 2021 Report Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/1/2021 at 4:56 PM, Buffalonill said: I'm not worried and if he Magically ends up at the pick where Florida's at we'll hit the jackpot . But I'm pretty confident when the year's over with he will be in the top 3 Lambert was back in the line up today. No points again but his teammate Kemell scored. Lambert stuck on 1 point on the season. Kemell has 7 goals and 11 points in his 9 games. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted October 7, 2021 Report Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) game between Winnipeg and Regina last night featured 3 prominent prospects Savoie and Geekie both look to be top 10 in 2022 and Bedard #1 overall in 2023 Nice goal by Savoie. Both he and Geekie look impressive so far https://winnipegice.ca/video/watch-highlights-ice-5-pats-2 Cam Robinson on Twitter Edited October 7, 2021 by Crusader1969 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted October 7, 2021 Author Report Posted October 7, 2021 52 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: game between Winnipeg and Regina last night featured 3 prominent prospects Savoie and Geekie both look to be top 10 in 2022 and Bedard #1 overall in 2023 Nice goal by Savoie. Both he and Geekie look impressive so far https://winnipegice.ca/video/watch-highlights-ice-5-pats-2 Cam Robinson on Twitter Savoie would have been first player to earn exceptional status in the WHL but He was denied lets see if he takes that Personally. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 More Kemell today 2G 1A. No Lambert once again Quote
K-9 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 Nothing in McKenzie’s highlight videos of Wright had me thinking “wow.” It was mostly video of him shooting wristers at inferior goalies and he does seem to have an accurate shot. But I didn’t see blazing speed, puck handling in a phone booth, or amazing passes. Not saying he doesn’t possess that ability and I haven’t seen the kid play at all, but that McKenzie breakdown did little to impress me. Quote
Flashsabre Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, K-9 said: Nothing in McKenzie’s highlight videos of Wright had me thinking “wow.” It was mostly video of him shooting wristers at inferior goalies and he does seem to have an accurate shot. But I didn’t see blazing speed, puck handling in a phone booth, or amazing passes. Not saying he doesn’t possess that ability and I haven’t seen the kid play at all, but that McKenzie breakdown did little to impress me. If you are looking at highlight packages to judge how good a player is then you are doing it all wrong. Remember Wright didn’t play hockey at all last year until the Under 18s. 1 Quote
French Collection Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 Wright is being compared to Bergeron, not McJesus. Quote
K-9 Posted October 9, 2021 Report Posted October 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: If you are looking at highlight packages to judge how good a player is then you are doing it all wrong. Remember Wright didn’t play hockey at all last year until the Under 18s. I totally agree and I’m not looking to judge any player based on highlight reels. That simply cannot be done. I’m only saying the highlights that McKenzie showed didn’t show me much other than a nice wrist shot. There’s usually a great handle, pass, or fast, fancy skating when they talk about great forwards projected to go #1 and I didn’t see any of that. Those particular highlights left me underwhelmed is all. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted October 9, 2021 Author Report Posted October 9, 2021 4 hours ago, French Collection said: Wright is being compared to Bergeron, not McJesus. So you don't want one of best elite players in this generation? Quote
K-9 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 5 hours ago, French Collection said: Wright is being compared to Bergeron, not McJesus. That works for me. Bergeron is a great player. Quote
French Collection Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalonill said: So you don't want one of best elite players in this generation? I would take Bergeron any day. He just does not have the generational tag. The discussion was about Wright not having highlight reel plays in McKenzie’s presentation. Quote
Buffalonill Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Posted October 10, 2021 1 hour ago, French Collection said: I would take Bergeron any day. He just does not have the generational tag. The discussion was about Wright not having highlight reel plays in McKenzie’s presentation. You dont think bergeron is a generational talent? Whos better at what he does can you name that player ? Quote
pi2000 Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: You dont think bergeron is a generational talent? Whos better at what he does can you name that player ? I don't believe you know what generational means. 1 Quote
Buffalonill Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Posted October 10, 2021 8 hours ago, pi2000 said: I don't believe you know what generational means. So you're saying connor mcdavid is not generational? Gretzky - crosby- mcdavid Fedorov- Datsyuk - Bergeron Quote
Weave Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Buffalonill said: So you're saying connor mcdavid is not generational? Gretzky - crosby- mcdavid Fedorov- Datsyuk - Bergeron No he’s saying any definition of generational that includes Fedorov, Datsyuk, or Bergeron is, at best, unconventional usage of the word. Edited October 10, 2021 by Weave Quote
Buffalonill Posted October 10, 2021 Author Report Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Weave said: No he’s saying any definition of generational that includes Fedorov, Datsyuk, or Bergeron is, at best, unconventional usage of the word. I see .. I wouldn't use Connor Mcdavid as a generational talent then I would say hes the best talent of this generation Edited October 10, 2021 by Buffalonill Quote
Taro T Posted October 10, 2021 Report Posted October 10, 2021 30 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: I see .. I wouldn't use Connor Mcdavid as a generational talent then I would say hes the best talent of this generation What IS a generational talent is a far more interesting Q IMHO than are the Sabres tanking. IMHO, In the past 60 years, there have been 6 truly generational talents (& 3 of those significantly overlapped): Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Hasek, Crosby, & McDavid. Everyone else in the discussion was merely elite. YMMV. If Wright is Bergeron, that's elite, not generational. 5 Quote
Brawndo Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-prospect-notebook-early-challengers-top-pick-2023/ Quote
K-9 Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 1:24 PM, Taro T said: What IS a generational talent is a far more interesting Q IMHO than are the Sabres tanking. IMHO, In the past 60 years, there have been 6 truly generational talents (& 3 of those significantly overlapped): Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Hasek, Crosby, & McDavid. Everyone else in the discussion was merely elite. YMMV. If Wright is Bergeron, that's elite, not generational. Thank you for including Hasek. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 Forget Lambert we need to start talking about Joakim Kemell. 5'11" 176lb RW 1 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Forget Lambert we need to start talking about Joakim Kemell. 5'11" 176lb RW About to post the same thing. Have you seen him play? I haven’t unfortunately. Lambert seems to be missing most games now. I’m assuming he’s been a healthy scratch. Quote
Flashsabre Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Forget Lambert we need to start talking about Joakim Kemell. 5'11" 176lb RW This is the classic, “all these guys were hyped for the draft two years out and now come draft year this kid is coming out of nowhere to be a top dog come draft day.” The kid is on a heater to start the season. Very skilled RW without a ton of size. The numbers are Bananas so far in a good pro men’s league. Quote
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