Two or less Posted February 17, 2022 Report Posted February 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Wait, back up. Miroschnichenko works out in Buffalo? When? In the summers, not sure who his agent is but he connected Ivan with the Academy of hockey. 1 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 10 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Wooo slow down now. Rosen, Kisakov, and Poltapov have as much chance to make the NHL as they do to never make the NHL. What’s the last 14th overall not to play in the NHL ? Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Crusader1969 said: What’s the last 14th overall not to play in the NHL ? Define "play" Quote
Crusader1969 Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Define "play" Maybe I needed a better definition of “make” NHL? The basic point is that the Sabres in 2 or 3 years should have more prospects competing for top 9 roles. With their top pick , they shouldn’t be drafting a forward because the pipeline is dry enough Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Maybe I needed a better definition of “make” NHL? The basic point is that the Sabres in 2 or 3 years should have more prospects competing for top 9 roles. With their top pick , they shouldn’t be drafting a forward because the pipeline is dry enough Make nhl for me is 200gp and for forwards something like .45ppg Quote
Curt Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Make nhl for me is 200gp and for forwards something like .45ppg I would lower that ppg marker a smidge. Trivial, I know, but a guy who is a solid bottom 6 forward putting up 10-15 goals and 25-35 points consistently for several years is a guy who had made the NHL. Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Curt said: I would lower that ppg marker a smidge. Trivial, I know, but a guy who is a solid bottom 6 forward putting up 10-15 goals and 25-35 points consistently for several years is a guy who had made the NHL. If you're 1st and 2nd round picks are 10g, 15a bottom 6 guys, I don't like your drafting. Quote
Curt Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, LGR4GM said: If you're 1st and 2nd round picks are 10g, 15a bottom 6 guys, I don't like your drafting. Agreed, but I thought it was a bar for “nhl player”, not a bar for good 1st round pick. Edited February 18, 2022 by Curt Quote
Ducky Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: What’s the last 14th overall not to play in the NHL ? Honka played in 16, 42 and 29 games. The last time he played in the NHL was 2018-2019. 2014 draft. Edited February 18, 2022 by Ducky 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Curt said: Agreed, but I thought it was a bar for “nhl player”, not a bar for good 1st round pick. Hence why I set the bar higher. 25pt players can literally be signed or traded for almost at will. So sure that's an nhl player but I'm looking at better than JAG level. Quote
Curt Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 42 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Hence why I set the bar higher. 25pt players can literally be signed or traded for almost at will. So sure that's an nhl player but I'm looking at better than JAG level. 0.45 x 82 is 37 points. I don’t think that a guy needs to average 37 points per full season to be considered an NHL player. 15 goal, 35 point players aren’t replacement level. At least in many cases, especially if they bring significant defensive attributes. PS- this is just a discussion, I realize that we are kind of splitting hairs here. I honestly think we are both just tying to define “top-9 forward on a good team”. 1 Quote
Weave Posted February 18, 2022 Report Posted February 18, 2022 Zemgus Girgensons is a successful NHL player at mid to late 1st round pick. Fight me. 2 Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 19, 2022 Report Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Shane Wright with 3 more points last night. He is starting to bring it. I think he is 1 OA come draft day. Edited February 19, 2022 by Flashsabre 1 Quote
Norcal Posted February 19, 2022 Report Posted February 19, 2022 I want him, depending on the pick. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 19, 2022 Report Posted February 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: Shane Wright with 3 more points last night. He is starting to bring it. I think he is 1 OA come draft day. He should be 1oa. It's like most forgot he didn't play for a year, he was almost guaranteed to start "slow". Wright is really good imo. Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 19, 2022 Report Posted February 19, 2022 51 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: He should be 1oa. It's like most forgot he didn't play for a year, he was almost guaranteed to start "slow". Wright is really good imo. Agree. I think Slafkovsky might be his biggest challenge when it is all did and done. Quote
LGR4GM Posted February 19, 2022 Report Posted February 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Agree. I think Slafkovsky might be his biggest challenge when it is all did and done. I think Savoie or Cooley are the only two players that are in that conversation. Slafskovsky will get an Olympics bump but it won't be enough to be in the top 3 I don't think. Ftr, I don't think anyone should be in the conversation except for Wright. Quote
Flashsabre Posted February 19, 2022 Report Posted February 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: I think Savoie or Cooley are the only two players that are in that conversation. Slafskovsky will get an Olympics bump but it won't be enough to be in the top 3 I don't think. Ftr, I don't think anyone should be in the conversation except for Wright. NHL teams still love size. I don’t Slafskovsky goes #1 but I will be suprised if he isn’t top 3 come draft day. Quote
Brawndo Posted February 19, 2022 Report Posted February 19, 2022 Later round player to watch. Joey Muldowney, plays in WNY for Nichols School committed to UConn for next year. 17 years old, turns 18 in June. RW 5’11” 154 Ibs needs to get stronger. Has 1.73 PPG Pace, for reference Mittelstadt was 2.56 in HS 1 Quote
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