Flashsabre Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: I feel like there was a conversation about Kingston being bad at player development recently They have always been poor but when you are a touted first OA pick you should lift your team up and standout regardless of the talent around you. If you show up at the arena or tune in he should stand out in some manner against his peers. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: I like Cozens taking the role as the #1 center. He’s matched up With some of the top centres in the league this year and done well vs them. He might never be a point per game guy but he will work hard, play defensively sound and will chip in offensively as he gains more experience Sabres need to take the BPA. Good news is that pretty good odds a center or RHD will be BPa when they draft Oh and don’t sleep on Lambert ! Speaking of Lambert Quote
Flashsabre Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Sounds like a mess. You have to wonder how much his dad is controlling all this and how much this in turn influences his draft stock. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Flashsabre said: Sounds like a mess. You have to wonder how much his dad is controlling all this and how much this in turn influences his draft stock. He's not in my top 10 anymore. Love the talent but I don't have time for the shenanigans. 1 Quote
Digger Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: He's not in my top 10 anymore. Love the talent but I don't have time for the shenanigans. I haven't been following this and don't know the back story and details behind the scenes but yes this looks really concerning for what you would want in having a player fit into the team culture and getting a young player that would need to put his head down, learn and work hard to make it to the NHL. Quote
Weave Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 He would have to ace a very focused interview for me to consider drafting him. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Digger said: I haven't been following this and don't know the back story and details behind the scenes but yes this looks really concerning for what you would want in having a player fit into the team culture and getting a young player that would need to put his head down, learn and work hard to make it to the NHL. By all accounts his dad is heavily involved 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 17, 2022 Report Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) I like Owen Beck. Edited January 17, 2022 by LGR4GM Quote
kas23 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 22 hours ago, Weave said: He would have to ace a very focused interview for me to consider drafting him. Would you allow his dad to sit in on the interview? 1 Quote
Digger Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, kas23 said: Would you allow his dad to sit in on the interview? Sure bring Mom as well. 😄 I can't imagine having my parents involved. Different generation today for quite a few. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Digger said: Sure bring Mom as well. 😄 I can't imagine having my parents involved. Different generation today for quite a few. Isn't generational imo, I think Lambert is just odd. Most 18yr olds I interact in with don't want their parents involved. Quote
kas23 Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Isn't generational imo, I think Lambert is just odd. Most 18yr olds I interact in with don't want their parents involved. Or, maybe some of these parents are just extremely overbearing. You have to wonder where Lambert’s motivation comes from and what effect it has had to get him to where he is today. Parents motivating their kids works at younger ages. However, these kids won’t be able to excel without having their own motivation at older ages. Maybe that’s what we are seeing here. Either way, he’s definitely one to avoid in the draft. Too many red flags and no production to excuse them. Quote
Weave Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, kas23 said: Would you allow his dad to sit in on the interview? If the word on the street is it’s his dad that is pulling the strings that results in this kid switching teams like that, I may want to interview dad as well. Separately. He’s got enough talent to warrant the scrutiny, but if I get red flags in the interviews I move on. 3 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) I'm on the Owen Beck train for late 1st round pick. I think he's a guy who will explode as the year progresses and destroy his draft position as soon as next year. Love how he plays. He leads the OHL I think in faceoff wins and is one of the best skaters in the OHL. This is also his first OHL year and he is creeping up to a ppg player. Quote 4. Owen Beck - Center - Mississauga Steelheads - 6' 190lbs What drives Beck's game is his speed. For my money, he has to be considered one of the best skaters in this draft class. However, I have been extremely impressed by Beck's ability to see the ice and make plays at top speed, something many other draft eligible speedsters have a tough time with. There's really a lot to like about his game overall. He can play in any situation and his compete level is solid. He is terrific on faceoffs. His shot is a major asset and it truly rounds out his offensive skill set. At first, I wasn't as sure that I saw significant offensive potential in him at the next level, but the more I have watched, the more I have come to believe that he is skilled and intelligent enough to be an eventual second line center. The key for Beck is to become stronger. He does disappear in stretches when he is not able to use his speed to force turnovers or lead the attack, but it's not from a lack of effort. Once he is able to play through contact more sufficiently and hold the wall more consistently, he should develop into an offensive force at the OHL level and beyond. With the NHL game predicated on speed today, you could do a lot worse than Owen Beck at the back half of the first round. http://ohlprospects.blogspot.com/2022/01/midseason-top-50-for-2022-nhl-entry.html Edited January 18, 2022 by LGR4GM Quote
Flashsabre Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, LGR4GM said: In a year when everything has been a mess with games and tournaments being cancelled this could be massive for both of these players draft stocks. Good showings at the Olympics could cement both as top 5-7 picks if not higher. Edited January 18, 2022 by Flashsabre Quote
Flashsabre Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Isn't generational imo, I think Lambert is just odd. Most 18yr olds I interact in with don't want their parents involved. I think the team to watch with Lambert will be the Isles if Trotz and Brad’s uncle, Lane Lambert don’t get fired this summer. Lane would have the best grasp of the situation. Barzal and Lambert could be an enticing duo. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 (edited) Who likes big rhd who probably will be there in round 2? 6'4" Sam Rinzel might be up your alley He's got a late June bday and should be interesting to watch in the ushl the rest of the year. Edited January 18, 2022 by LGR4GM Quote
Thorner Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Who likes big rhd who probably will be there in round 2? 6'4" Sam Rinzel might be up your alley He's got a late June bday and should be interesting to watch in the ushl the rest of the year. Ah, finally, OUR Logan Stanley Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 In Baders model, based on age, league, production, Nemec's closest comp is Dahlin. This is based on production, not style of play. Quote
Curt Posted January 18, 2022 Report Posted January 18, 2022 50 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: In Baders model, based on age, league, production, Nemec's closest comp is Dahlin. This is based on production, not style of play. Honestly, I have not seen a lot of evidence that Bader’s model is very useful for projecting prospects. 1 Quote
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