WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 12:44 PM, LGR4GM said: I am not going to be able to avoid this thread am I? He's fast, a little undersized, reminds me a little of Jarvis but again, gotta wait. Expand Not with a full rebuild and a top 5 pick staring us in the face, not a chance Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 12:28 PM, LGR4GM said: I'll add a little. I have concerns about him which is why I want to hold off. Expand What concerns he go first in ever draft but 2015 he's Is nathan macKinnon on steroids. Hell Savoie would go first in every draft but 2015 Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 2:44 PM, Buffalonill said: What concerns he goes first in ever draft but 2015. He's is nathan macKinnon on steroids. Hell Savoie would go first in every draft but 2015 Expand Oh idk about that. Again, I want to get to January before really getting into this. So many guys barely played last year and I want to see the WJC20 before going further. Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 2:47 PM, LGR4GM said: Oh idk about that. Again, I want to get to January before really getting into this. So many guys barely played last year and I want to see the WJC20 before going further. Expand Wright, savoie or lambert will be the top 3 its locked in . People can say Ivan will be in the 3 but he won't he will be 4 or 5 with cooley . It's going to be a fun year to tank Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) On 8/4/2021 at 9:46 PM, Mr. Allen said: How good is Wright? Where would he rank among previous first overall picks? He’s no McDavid, right? Expand He be with McDavid and Bedard will be better then both hands down And then comes michkov so much talent in these 2 drafts Edited August 5, 2021 by Buffalonill Quote
WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:06 PM, Buffalonill said: He be with McDavid and Bedard will be better then both hands down Expand Bedard is a prospect. McDavid has won 2 Hart trophies. 1 Quote
Flashsabre Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:06 PM, Buffalonill said: He be with McDavid and Bedard will be better then both hands down And then comes michkov so much talent in these 2 drafts Expand You are going a little over the top. Bedard doesn’t have McDavid’s size or skating ability. Putting up points in a truncated crazy WHL season doesn’t automatically mean he will be better then McDavid. Let’s see how the next two years go. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 2:53 PM, Buffalonill said: Wright, savoie or lambert will be the top 3 its locked in . People can say Ivan will be in the 3 but he won't he will be 4 or 5 with cooley . It's going to be a fun year to tank Expand Way too early for this type of prognostication Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:14 PM, WildCard said: Bedard is a prospect. McDavid has won 2 Hart trophies. Expand And we all knew McDavid was going to be the next one correct? Bedard has destroyed every record Created by mcdavid to make his own records Quote
WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:47 PM, Buffalonill said: And we all knew McDavid was going to be the next one correct? Bedard has destroyed every record Created by mcdavid to make his own records Expand And we all knew Hughes was better than Eichel, and Lindros was a god, and Tavares was the next one...I'm just saying you can't make assumptions that a prospect in Bedard is going to pan out like the reality that is McDavid. He's still just a projection. Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:40 PM, Flashsabre said: You are going a little over the top. Bedard doesn’t have McDavid’s size or skating ability. Putting up points in a truncated crazy WHL season doesn’t automatically mean he will be better then McDavid. Let’s see how the next two years go. Expand Really ? at age 15 He basically destroyed the league? How many points do you think he would have if he played 24 games like Krebs His points per game was 1.89 vs Connor mcdavid's 1.05 And Bedard 27 points of 28 Are primary assist or goals that's just completely insane Quote
WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 @Buffalonill Let's see the stats comparison here then. Leagues and what age they were in. Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 5:53 PM, WildCard said: And we all knew Hughes was better than Eichel, and Lindros was a god, and Tavares was the next one...I'm just saying you can't make assumptions that a prospect in Bedard is going to pan out like the reality that is McDavid. He's still just a projection. Expand Who in the hell said Hughes would be better then jack eichel? . I have to disagree Bedard is truly amazing he destroyed a league at 15 years old WHL Which never happens and destroyed the u18 vs guys that are 18 and he's 15 look up Connor mcdavid's u18 at the same age and You'll see why all the hype Quote
WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:07 PM, Buffalonill said: Who in the hell said Hughes would be better then jack eichel? . I have to disagree Bedard is truly amazing he destroyed a league at 15 years old WHL Which never happens and destroyed the u18 vs guys that are 18 and he's 15 look up Connor mcdavid's u18 at the same age and You'll see why all the hype Expand Lot of people looked at Hughes stats compared to Eichel's in the same league and thought he'd be better. I feel like sometimes on here what I'm saying isn't actually read...I'm not denying the hype of Bedard. I'm not even going to contend with you that's he's not a better prospect than McDavid was when he was a prospect; I genuinely don't know. All I'm saying is it's crazy to say a 16 year old kid will be better 'hands down' than a proven NHL, 2 time Hart trophy winner. He has two years to go before he even enters the league. Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:02 PM, WildCard said: @Buffalonill Let's see the stats comparison here then. Leagues and what age they were in. Expand Mcdavid vs Bedard Age 15 Mcdavid PPG 1.05 / Assist 0.65 / Goals 0.40 Bedard PPG 1.87 / Assist 1.07 / Goals 0.80 Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:10 PM, WildCard said: Lot of people looked at Hughes stats compared to Eichel's in the same league and thought he'd be better. I feel like sometimes on here what I'm saying isn't actually read...I'm not denying the hype of Bedard. I'm not even going to contend with you that's he's not a better prospect than McDavid was when he was a prospect; I genuinely don't know. All I'm saying is it's crazy to say a 16 year old kid will be better 'hands down' than a proven NHL, 2 time Hart trophy winner. He has two years to go before he even enters the league. Expand Did you think this way before McDavid? That it's crazy that he will be better then Crosby Quote
WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:15 PM, Buffalonill said: Mcdavid vs Bedard Age 15 Mcdavid PPG 1.05 / Assist 0.65 / Goals 0.40 Bedard PPG 1.87 / Assist 1.07 / Goals 0.80 Expand What league? There's only one year of stats? Bedard could fall off a cliff in his development and seriously level out. On 8/5/2021 at 6:17 PM, Buffalonill said: Did you think this way before McDavid? That it's crazy that he will be better then Crosby Expand Think what? Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:20 PM, WildCard said: What league? There's only one year of stats? Bedard could fall off a cliff in his development and seriously level out. Think what? Expand Yes that was his first year at 15 like Mcdavid he Got the honor to play a year early in the WHL like Mcdavid did in the OHL. Think what? That connor McDavid was just all hype before he entered and You couldn't compare Crosby etc with him Quote
WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:30 PM, Buffalonill said: Yes that was his first year at 15 like Mcdavid he Got the honor to play a year early in the WHL like Mcdavid did in the OHL. Think what? That connor McDavid was just all hype before he entered and You couldn't compare Crosby etc with him Expand I am not saying you cannot compare him to McDavid as a prospect. I literally said you can in my post. I am just saying you cannot guarantee that he will be better than him. McDavid had the same PPG as Spezza, and less than Tavares for what it's worth. The OHL is harder. Bedard is 5'9 at 16 years old, McDavid was 5'11. All I'm saying is slow down the hype train and Conn Smythes for this kid just yet. He's a really good prospect, but he's two years away from even being drafted. Quote
LGR4GM Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:36 PM, WildCard said: I am not saying you cannot compare him to McDavid as a prospect. I literally said you can in my post. I am just saying you cannot guarantee that he will be better than him. McDavid had the same PPG as Spezza, and less than Tavares for what it's worth. The OHL is harder. Bedard is 5'9 at 16 years old, McDavid was 5'11. All I'm saying is slow down the hype train and Conn Smythes for this kid just yet. He's a really good prospect, but he's two years away from even being drafted. Expand Harder than what? If you mean the WHL, that is highly debatable Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:36 PM, WildCard said: I am not saying you cannot compare him to McDavid as a prospect. I literally said you can in my post. I am just saying you cannot guarantee that he will be better than him. McDavid had the same PPG as Spezza, and less than Tavares for what it's worth. The OHL is harder. Bedard is 5'9 at 16 years old, McDavid was 5'11. All I'm saying is slow down the hype train and Conn Smythes for this kid just yet. He's a really good prospect, but he's two years away from even being drafted. Expand Bedard was 15 in the WHL and 15 in u18 which he was the leading The Canadian team in points with this year's draft class on that team The last person that did that was Connor mcdavid 14 points in 2013 But I get your point we'll see what happens and will revisit this 1 Quote
WildCard Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 I will say it's a shame he's not in this draft. I'll also say that while he could be really special, I don't want any chance at him. On 8/5/2021 at 6:42 PM, LGR4GM said: Harder than what? If you mean the WHL, that is highly debatable Expand I freaking knew you were gonna call me on that lol Quote
Hoss Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 2:53 PM, Buffalonill said: Wright, savoie or lambert will be the top 3 its locked in . People can say Ivan will be in the 3 but he won't he will be 4 or 5 with cooley . It's going to be a fun year to tank Expand There are several rankings that do not have Savoie or Lambert in the top three. A year out from the draft nothing is locked in. Quote
Buffalonill Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 6:50 PM, Hoss said: There are several rankings that do not have Savoie or Lambert in the top three. A year out from the draft nothing is locked in. Expand It's been the 3 headed monster for years will see what happens On 8/5/2021 at 6:44 PM, WildCard said: I will say it's a shame he's not in this draft. I'll also say that while he could be really special, I don't want any chance at him. I freaking knew you were gonna call me on that lol Expand Quote
Curt Posted August 5, 2021 Report Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/5/2021 at 2:53 PM, Buffalonill said: Wright, savoie or lambert will be the top 3 its locked in . People can say Ivan will be in the 3 but he won't he will be 4 or 5 with cooley . It's going to be a fun year to tank Expand On 8/5/2021 at 5:06 PM, Buffalonill said: He be with McDavid and Bedard will be better then both hands down And then comes michkov so much talent in these 2 drafts Expand The level of certainty that you are projecting about these 15-17 year old players is way overboard. It’s bordering on absurd and making me doubt whether your opinion has and credibility at all. Especially considering that none of them really played a normal season last year and some barely played at all. These guys have 1-2 more seasons to play before they are drafted. A lot can change. Like this past season you were pounding the table for Raty for months saying he was going to be the best, and by draft time you were campaigning for other players. You just should cool it a bit. Quote
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