dudacek Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, French Collection said: Consolidated mock draft at Elite Prospects. They use around a dozen mock drafts to create this list. 1Shane Wright (C)Kingston Frontenacs OHL 2Matthew Savoie (C)Winnipeg Ice WHL 3Simon Nemec (D)HK Nitra Slovakia 4Juraj Slafkovsky (LW)TPS Liiga 5Brad Lambert (C/RW)JYP Liiga 6Ivan Miroshnichenko (LW)Omskie Krylia VHL 7Danila Yurov (RW)Metallurg Magnitogorsk KHL 8Logan Cooley (C)U.S. National U18 Team USDP 9Joakim Kemell (RW)JYP Liiga 10Conor Geekie (C)Winnipeg Ice WHL 11David Jiricek (D)HC Plzen Czech 12Rutger McGroarty (C)U.S. National U18 Team USDP 13Elias Salomonsson (D)Skellefteå AIK J20 J20 Nationell 14Frank Nazar (RW)U.S. National U18 Team USDP 15Seamus Casey (D)U.S. National U18 Team USDP 16Isaac Howard (LW)U.S. National U18 Team USDP 17Ryan Chesley (D)U.S. National U18 Team USDP 18Jonathan Lekkerimäki (C)Djurgårdens IF J20 J20 Nationell 19Tristan Luneau (D)Gatineau Olympiques QMJHL 20Noah Östlund (C)Djurgårdens IF J20 J20 Nationell 21Ty Nelson (D)North Bay Battalion OHL 22Nathan Gaucher (C)Québec Remparts QMJHL 23Filip Mesar (W/C)HK Poprad Slovakia 24Denton Mateychuk (D)Moose Jaw Warriors WHL 25Marco Kasper (C)Rögle BK SHL 26Cutter Gauthier (LW)U.S. National U18 Team USDP 27Jack Hughes (C)Northeastern Univ. NCAA 28Liam Öhgren (LW)Djurgårdens IF J20 J20 Nationell 29Ludwig Persson (C/LW)Frölunda HC J20 J20 Nationell 30Alexander Perevalov (LW)Loko Yaroslavl MHL 31Simon Forsmark (D)Örebro HK J20 J20 Nationell 32Pano Fimis (C)Niagara IceDogs OHL 32Ludvig Jansson (D)Södertälje SK HockeyAllsvenskan 32Arseni Koromyslov (D)SKA-1946 St. Petersburg MHL 32Bryce McConnell-Barker (C)Soo Greyhounds OHL 32Antonin Verreault (LW)Gatineau Olympiques QMJHL 32Danny Zhilkin (C)Guelph Storm OHL Looks like it might be unlikely we grab a centre in the top 10 if we end up picking in the 4-10 range I kinda expect us to. But grabbing a couple with our three picks in the 20-40 range shouldn’t be a problem. Quote
Buffalonill Posted November 24, 2021 Author Report Posted November 24, 2021 Savoie is going to push for first overall just playing at elite high level and his Motor never stops Quote
Buffalonill Posted November 24, 2021 Author Report Posted November 24, 2021 On 11/22/2021 at 3:22 PM, Crusader1969 said: I've been thinking about this today. Am i crazy in thinking that I would rather Savoie than Wright? Wright is undoubtedly a better all round player than Savoie. Wright is a leader and will one day be captain of his NHL team. However, for the Sabres, I think they could use the guy with the most offensive upside and thats Savoie. My thinking is that Cozens checks a lot of the same boxes that Wright does, making Wright redundant to a point. Wright is a different breed they're not similar at all Quote
Thorner Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, dudacek said: Looks like it might be unlikely we grab a centre in the top 10 if we end up picking in the 4-10 range I kinda expect us to. But grabbing a couple with our three picks in the 20-40 range shouldn’t be a problem. That was my first thought when I saw this list, too. Gotta go BPA with the top pick. But I see no reason they can’t or shouldn’t find a way to have 1 or 2 centres at the top of their list, a bit further down in the first Quote
Crusader1969 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 7 hours ago, dudacek said: Looks like it might be unlikely we grab a centre in the top 10 if we end up picking in the 4-10 range I kinda expect us to. But grabbing a couple with our three picks in the 20-40 range shouldn’t be a problem. Why unlikely? Lambert, Geekie and Cooley would fall into that 4-10 range I would guess who knows. , maybe Savoie falls too cause of “size” Quote
Buffalonill Posted November 24, 2021 Author Report Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said: Why unlikely? Lambert, Geekie and Cooley would fall into that 4-10 range I would guess who knows. , maybe Savoie falls too cause of “size” 000000000000% Quote
Crusader1969 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: 000000000000% no offence, but your predictions about the draft haven’t been very accurate 3 Quote
dudacek Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Crusader1969 said: Why unlikely? Lambert, Geekie and Cooley would fall into that 4-10 range I would guess That's still less than 50 % odds on a straight statistical analysis. And I could be wrong, because I only have a superficial understanding of each prospect, but Lambert and Geekie don't strike me as the types of players the Sabres favour. Quote
Buffalonill Posted November 24, 2021 Author Report Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Crusader1969 said: no offence, but your predictions about the draft haven’t been very accurate I was right about Raty and Lundell? Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 12 hours ago, Buffalonill said: Savoie is going to push for first overall just playing at elite high level and his Motor never stops No. Push for 2nd overall maybe, but not 1st. It's going to be Wright. Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 Right now, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres are thinking Danila Yurov. Quote
Hoss Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Right now, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sabres are thinking Danila Yurov. I’m sure they’re aware of him and interested if they’re picking in the mid to late top 10. Quote
Curt Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’m sure they’re aware of him and interested if they’re picking in the mid to late top 10. Yurov could go as high as 2. I think he is a top 5 guy in this draft. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hoss said: I’m sure they’re aware of him and interested if they’re picking in the mid to late top 10. ill regurgitate from Scouching from last Thursday....he calls him Fine, not involved Defensively , unreliable passing and moving the puck at the KHL level. Says he should still be a top 10 /15 pick and has the skill to rip apart the MHL. Not really sold on him overall. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Buffalonill said: I was right about Raty and Lundell? too early to say but you were definitely off of where they would be drafted. However, if they turn into players who should have been drafted top 10, you should wear that as a badge of honour Or Honor (depending on where you live) 5 hours ago, dudacek said: That's still less than 50 % odds on a straight statistical analysis. And I could be wrong, because I only have a superficial understanding of each prospect, but Lambert and Geekie don't strike me as the types of players the Sabres favour. I can see Lambert but not Geekie - can you expand? Quote
dudacek Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: too early to say but you were definitely off of where they would be drafted. However, if they turn into players who should have been drafted top 10, you should wear that as a badge of honour Or Honor (depending on where you live) I can see Lambert but not Geekie - can you expand? Sabres have shown a real tendency to want self-starters who are fast and play fast. From the little I've read, Geekie doesn't seem to fit the mould, at least the fast part. Not saying they won't pick him because he's not fast, am saying they may prefer a similarly ranked player who is more their mould if both are available when they pick, like they reportedly preferred Ekblad to McTavish. No real insight here, just spitballing. They may think Geekie's speed is fine and absolutely love everything else he brings to the table. My point was more I don't see a bunch of no-brainer Sabre-style centres between 4 and 10. Edited November 24, 2021 by dudacek 2 Quote
Crusader1969 Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, dudacek said: Sabres have shown a real tendency to want self-starters who are fast and play fast. From the little I've read, Geekie doesn't seem to fit the mould, at least the fast part. Not saying they won't pick him because he's not fast, am saying they may prefer a similarly ranked player who is more their mould if both are available when they pick, like they reportedly preferred Ekblad to McTavish. No real insight here, just spitballing. They may think Geekie's speed is fine and absolutely love everything else he brings to the table. I agree, though they took Quinn, who isnt a speedster. the Lambert vs Geekie would definitely be an interesting debate Quote
Buffalonill Posted November 24, 2021 Author Report Posted November 24, 2021 Geekie plays like staal going to be a very sold prospect. And coming from a Lambert fan buffalo isn't going to draft him Quote
dudacek Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: I agree, though they took Quinn, who isnt a speedster. the Lambert vs Geekie would definitely be an interesting debate Yes, but Quinn plays fast. Makes very quick decisions, pressures the puck and moves it lightning quick. I'm picturing Geekie as a more slow-the-game-down, buy space and time with his body type (yes, like Staal, or like the current Tage Thompson, whom the Sabres seem to love, so what do I know?) Edited November 24, 2021 by dudacek Quote
Flashsabre Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 What is the story on Logan Cooley? I have seen him usually ranked in the top 10, Button even has him at #2. Never watched him play. Is he a centre the Sabres would gravitate to? Quote
PerreaultForever Posted November 24, 2021 Report Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Curt said: Yurov could go as high as 2. I think he is a top 5 guy in this draft. I doubt 2, but 5 or thereabouts. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted November 25, 2021 Report Posted November 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Flashsabre said: What is the story on Logan Cooley? I have seen him usually ranked in the top 10, Button even has him at #2. Never watched him play. Is he a centre the Sabres would gravitate to? I would say 100% yes. No reason for them not to be high on him Quote
Thorner Posted November 29, 2021 Report Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) Sabres currently in line for, surprise, pick 8. As of course is tradition. (Ristolainen, Nylander, Mittelstadt, Quinn) I could see the Sabres staying in this spot for the long haul this season honestly, aside from the Islanders we could be better than all the teams below us. Edited November 29, 2021 by Thorny 2 Quote
sabresparaavida Posted November 29, 2021 Report Posted November 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Thorny said: Sabres currently in line for, surprise, pick 8. As of course is tradition. (Ristolainen, Nylander, Mittelstadt, Quinn) I could see the Sabres staying in this spot for the long haul this season honestly, aside from the Islanders we could be better than all the teams below us. I wouldn’t hate that. It would definitely show some progress, and give us another shot at a Quinn/Cozens caliber prospect to help solidify our forward corps. 1 Quote
Hoss Posted November 29, 2021 Report Posted November 29, 2021 6 hours ago, Thorny said: Sabres currently in line for, surprise, pick 8. As of course is tradition. (Ristolainen, Nylander, Mittelstadt, Quinn) I could see the Sabres staying in this spot for the long haul this season honestly, aside from the Islanders we could be better than all the teams below us. I think the Blackhawks, Canucks and Isles are all definitively better. But I also think none of it matters because the Sabres are obviously winning the lottery regardless of where they finish. 1 Quote
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