Derrico Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 55 minutes ago, Curt said: I don’t know John Hoven, apparent Mayor of the LA Kings, of some LA Kings podcast and of the Website Mayor’s Manor. Is this guy actually connected? If the Kings were interested in Jack, do we really think we're going to hear the Mayor of the LA Kings come out and announce it? You guys put way too much into tweets. 1
Brawndo Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Could also be Kings FO using him as negotiating ploy like most GMs use Dreger. The article is useless, it doesn’t even say they want Jones. Says long term RHD is set, they need a LHD and two forwards. He lays out a case for acquiring Jones by stating He and Dougherty on the Top Two Pairings that could be on the Ice for 45 minutes a game, I believe that’s a similar argument that some posters are using to draft Power. In terms of needing a LHD, Rasmus Dahlin fits the criteria and I’m sure Blake has asked about Him. I wouldn’t move him, but the potential return would be interesting, Byfield would be a must If Reinhart doesn’t want to sign a long term deal in Buffalo, 8th overall and Turcotte is a nice start.
dudacek Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Curt said: I don’t know John Hoven, apparent Mayor of the LA Kings, of some LA Kings podcast and of the Website Mayor’s Manor. Is this guy actually connected? Many consider him the most-connected Kings insider. I would suggest the source is from inside the Kings head office and the point is to remind the Sabres that the Kings have other paths they could take if Buffalo keeps pushing for Byfield. Which also suggests to me that talks between the Kings and the Sabres must be fairly far along. 1
JohnC Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Brawndo said: He lays out a case for acquiring Jones by stating He and Dougherty on the Top Two Pairings that could be on the Ice for 45 minutes a game, I believe that’s a similar argument that some posters are using to draft Power. In terms of needing a LHD, Rasmus Dahlin fits the criteria and I’m sure Blake has asked about Him. I wouldn’t move him, but the potential return would be interesting, Byfield would be a must If Reinhart doesn’t want to sign a long term deal in Buffalo, 8th overall and Turcotte is a nice start. I'm as big of fan of Reinhart as there is here. However, if Reinhart doesn't sign a long term deal (as you noted) I would be satisfied with a trade that included the 8th pick and Turcotte for Reinhart. And I would also consider trading that 8th pick for a young player who could contribute right away.
Crusader1969 Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Guess if his neck gets cleared that might change things but Byfield is clearly off the table. Im sure the return for Jack is a moving target. If you can get Anaheim to give you a good package (includes Zegras), remind Blake that he probably doesn't want to have to face Jack on his main Rivals for the next 10 years. now maybe Byfield becomes available. I would think the Ryan Johnson's rights may be on the table as well.
dudacek Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 Do the Kings have the pieces for Eichel and Power? It might not be straight across, but Byfield for Power has to be pretty close in value. Could Adams trade Eichel elsewhere for a package lacking a centre, then flip 1OA and Power and an add to the Kings for Byfield?
Thorner Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 7 minutes ago, dudacek said: Do the Kings have the pieces for Eichel and Power? It might not be straight across, but Byfield for Power has to be pretty close in value. Could Adams trade Eichel elsewhere for a package lacking a centre, then flip 1OA and Power and an add to the Kings for Byfield? Power and Reinhart to LA for Byfield and Kempe, e5
Buffalonill Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 Just send Jack to the ducks so we all can be happy with guenther Who's with me ? 1
dudacek Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm as big of fan of Reinhart as there is here. However, if Reinhart doesn't sign a long term deal (as you noted) I would be satisfied with a trade that included the 8th pick and Turcotte for Reinhart. And I would also consider trading that 8th pick for a young player who could contribute right away. 8th and Turcotte is too much for Reinhart. We'd need to add. 12 minutes ago, Crusader1969 said: Im sure the return for Jack is a moving target. If you can get Anaheim to give you a good package (includes Zegras), remind Blake that he probably doesn't want to have to face Jack on his main Rivals for the next 10 years. now maybe Byfield becomes available. I would think the Ryan Johnson's rights may be on the table as well. The thought of something based around Eichel and Johnson for Zegras, Lindholm (or Manson) plus has crossed my mind. Or Eichel and Johnson for Drysdale and 3OA plus has as well. Pick Beniers and Eklund and spend Jack's $10 million on supporting them. Sick as I am of kicking the can down the road, this would be U23 core to drool over. Eklund Cozens Quinn ??? Beniers Peterka Asplund Mittelstadt Thompson Dahlin Joker Samuelsson Drysdale Luukkonen Everyone in that top 5 plays full-out hockey. Edited June 9, 2021 by dudacek
Thorner Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) ^Sweet Now how do we get a 1C? Eichel for Eklund and Drysdale seems low to me Edited June 9, 2021 by Thorny
dudacek Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Thorny said: ^Sweet Now how do we get a 1C? I think you'd have 3 pretty damn good 2Cs, with your top 2 able to match up with any one. Or you can switch Zegras in for Drysdale, adjust sweeteners accordingly.
Thorner Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 1 minute ago, dudacek said: I think you'd have 3 pretty damn good 2Cs, with your top 2 able to match up with any one. Or you can switch Zegras in for Drysdale, adjust sweeteners accordingly. It's just, I'd much rather have Eichel than Beniers, and Power/Drysdale is close to a wash, no? Worry about the extra winger with a Risto trade. The lineup where we keep Jack is so much stronger
dudacek Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: It's just, I'd much rather have Eichel than Beniers, and Power/Drysdale is close to a wash, no? Worry about the extra winger with a Risto trade. The lineup where we keep Jack is so much stronger Probably, but Drysdale is an RD. The extra winger is Olofsson or even R2 for now, plus we've got two 2nds, Sam and Jack's $10 million factoring in. To your 2nd point, yes but does anyone still think that's going to happen?
Buffalonill Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Thorny said: ^Sweet Now how do we get a 1C? Eichel for Eklund and Drysdale seems low to me
Thorner Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, dudacek said: Probably, but Drysdale is an RD. The extra winger is Olofsson or even R2 for now, plus we've got two 2nds, Sam and Jack's $10 million factoring in. To your 2nd point, yes but does anyone still think that's going to happen? My lineup had Sam in it/his value, too To the bold, no, but it's tough for me to drool over what I perceive as a downgrade, is all I'm saying
WildCard Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Thorny said: ^Sweet Now how do we get a 1C? Eichel for Eklund and Drysdale seems low to me Tank *ducks*
Thorner Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: Tank *ducks* I'm worried that this could end up being part of the plan. Not a tank, but the idea of being in the "sweepstakes" (barf) for Wright and/or Bedard. Even just a, "well, and you know, if we do take a step back, it would put us in good position for.." *shudder* Edited June 9, 2021 by Thorny
Curt Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 58 minutes ago, dudacek said: Many consider him the most-connected Kings insider. I would suggest the source is from inside the Kings head office and the point is to remind the Sabres that the Kings have other paths they could take if Buffalo keeps pushing for Byfield. Which also suggests to me that talks between the Kings and the Sabres must be fairly far along. I like your take. Could very well be the case.
WildCard Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 43 minutes ago, Thorny said: I'm worried that this could end up being part of the plan. Not a tank, but the idea of being in the "sweepstakes" (barf) for Wright and/or Bedard. Even just a, "well, and you know, if we do take a step back, it would put us in good position for.." *shudder* Wouldn't surprise me. We'll know real soon if Eichel/Reinhart are traded, especially for future picks.
Buffalonill Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 1 hour ago, dudacek said: Many consider him the most-connected Kings insider. I would suggest the source is from inside the Kings head office and the point is to remind the Sabres that the Kings have other paths they could take if Buffalo keeps pushing for Byfield. Which also suggests to me that talks between the Kings and the Sabres must be fairly far along. They need to get byfield or move on
Curt Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: They need to get byfield or move on If they absolutely can not get Byfield or Zegras, what do you do?
Buffalonill Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Curt said: If they absolutely can not get Byfield or Zegras, what do you do? Keep him or if available I'll take jack hughes or kirby dach packages
Flashsabre Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Keep him or if available I'll take jack hughes or kirby dach packages Try for Dach. Keep Eichel out west. 1
JohnC Posted June 9, 2021 Report Posted June 9, 2021 2 hours ago, dudacek said: 8th and Turcotte is too much for Reinhart. We'd need to add. The thought of something based around Eichel and Johnson for Zegras, Lindholm (or Manson) plus has crossed my mind. Or Eichel and Johnson for Drysdale and 3OA plus has as well. Pick Beniers and Eklund and spend Jack's $10 million on supporting them. Sick as I am of kicking the can down the road, this would be U23 core to drool over. Eklund Cozens Quinn ??? Beniers Peterka Asplund Mittelstadt Thompson Dahlin Joker Samuelsson Drysdale Luukkonen Everyone in that top 5 plays full-out hockey. Looking at some of your projected proposals, even if there is some variation, what becomes apparent if our young GM handles the market smartly is that he can come out of this Jack and Reinhart drama with a core of young players that in the near future should make this not only competitive team but also an entertaining team. Where I slightly disagree with your take is that I would want Byfield included in a Jack trade and I would use our first pick on Power instead of Beniers. In general I like your assemblage of players. For what is considered a nondescript franchise this is going to be an exciting offseason for the local fans and also the NHL fans in general.
Hoss Posted June 10, 2021 Report Posted June 10, 2021 https://www.diebytheblade.com/2021/6/9/22524979/making-the-best-out-of-losing-your-best-player-eichel-sabres-reinhart Joe Yerdon thinks the ship has sailed on Eichel in Buffalo.
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