kas23 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 9:18 PM, Broken Ankles said: In your scenario does Jason Botterill come back as the Sabres GM to pull the trigger on this trade? Expand Darcy would’ve consummated this trade already and for a high return.
kas23 Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 5:55 PM, mjd1001 said: I'm just thinking if the team that traded him less than a year later got a lot more than the Sabres did in return, a lot of the fanbase here would be very upset. It certainly would be a topic of discussion for a while. Expand Can’t imagine that. It would be like us getting pissed off Montreal flipping Scandella for a better return. 1
The Jokeman Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) I'm not sure what Vegas is offering offering but some feel Peyton Krebs is untouchable yet to me he's the starting point. I'd also like Jack Dugan in part because he's a Rochester native. Edited October 26, 2021 by The Jokeman 1
Zamboni Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 11:49 PM, The Jokeman said: Report: Sabres ramp up Eichel trade talks with Golden Knights https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2204933 I'm not sure what they offering but some feel Peyton Krebs is untouchable yet to me he's the starting point. Expand Dudacek beat you by over an hour ago with a different link on the previous page. 👍🏼
aristocrat Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 Marschashualt, krebs 2 ones? We send jack and mitts?
The Jokeman Posted October 26, 2021 Report Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 11:52 PM, Zamboni said: Dudacek beat you by over an hour ago with a different link on the previous page. 👍🏼 Expand Edited to remove link but keeping my thoughts on compensation.
dudacek Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) These recent rumours actually kinda have me wondering if a deal may be actually closer than I think. They seem calculated to put the notion in the heads of any team but Vegas that the Sabres are close to pulling the trigger and not with me. Which is generally a card you play when you are actually very close to pulling the trigger and are trying to squeeze out one last concession. Whether it’s Brisson or Adams doing the dealing, it’s not a card that would be played to pressure the Sabres. Edited October 27, 2021 by dudacek 1
JohnC Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 I would take Krebs, Tuch and a first or even a second round pick for Jack. Tuch is on IR and his departing salary for Vegas would offset some of Jack's incoming salary. When Tuch gets healthy he is a first or second line forward for us. If you add Krebs to the group of Quinn, Peterka, Power and Samuelsson you can see the young core expanding in the not too distant future. These young players would thrive under the tutelage of Granato. 2
The Jokeman Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:26 AM, JohnC said: I would take Krebs, Tuch and a first or even a second round pick for Jack. Tuch is on IR and his departing salary for Vegas would offset some of Jack's incoming salary. When Tuch gets healthy he is a first or second line forward for us. If you add Krebs to the group of Quinn, Peterka, Power and Samuelsson you can see the young core expanding in the not too distant future. These young players would thrive under the tutelage of Granato. Expand To get Krebs you'd probably have to throw in Mitts who personally not willing to let go after the way he finished last season. As I'm not sold on Cozens as a top 6 guy. 1
dudacek Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:34 AM, The Jokeman said: To get Krebs you'd probably have to throw in Mitts who personally not willing to let go after the way he finished last season. As I'm not sold on Cozens as a top 6 guy. Expand Wait, Mitts and Eichel for Krebs and lesser pieces? How good do you think this guy is? He’s exactly the same age as Cozens, had half as many points on the same WJC team, and he’s got 1 assist in 9 NHL games. I like Krebs probably more than any other prospect that might be part of an Eichel return, but his ceiling projects as a Sam Reinhart level player. 3 2
bunomatic Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 11:34 PM, kas23 said: Darcy would’ve consummated this trade already and for a high return. Expand Darcy was as slow as a sloth but you may be right. This is glacial slow and maybe a sloth would seem fast in comparison.
dudacek Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:41 AM, Let's Go B-Lo said: Does Krebs have that much higher a ceiling than Mittelstadt? Expand Absolutely not. 2
aristocrat Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:34 AM, The Jokeman said: To get Krebs you'd probably have to throw in Mitts who personally not willing to let go after the way he finished last season. As I'm not sold on Cozens as a top 6 guy. Expand Lol wut
K-9 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:34 AM, The Jokeman said: To get Krebs you'd probably have to throw in Mitts who personally not willing to let go after the way he finished last season. As I'm not sold on Cozens as a top Expand You will be glad to eat those words about Cozens in the very near future. 2
LGR4GM Posted October 27, 2021 Author Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:46 AM, dudacek said: Wait, Mitts and Eichel for Krebs and lesser pieces? How good do you think this guy is? He’s exactly the same age as Cozens, had half as many points on the same WJC team, and he’s got 1 assist in 9 NHL games. I like Krebs probably more than any other prospect that might be part of an Eichel return, but his ceiling projects as a Sam Reinhart level player. Expand Krebs projects out to a 60-70 point guy much like Cozens. That's if he hits, he's also got a 30-40 pt chance just like Cozens. 1
JohnC Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:34 AM, The Jokeman said: To get Krebs you'd probably have to throw in Mitts who personally not willing to let go after the way he finished last season. As I'm not sold on Cozens as a top 6 guy. Expand I don't believe that Mitts should be factored in any trade for Jack. If Krebs is in a deal you are essentially trading Jack for Krebs. That in itself would make it an unbalanced deal favoring Vegas. That's why I would expect a player such as Tuch to be included in the deal. In addition, to financially make the deal work for Vegas they need to have a significant salary going out to somewhat balance out the incoming Jack salary. 1
dudacek Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:51 AM, LGR4GM said: Krebs projects out to a 60-70 point guy much like Cozens. That's if he hits, he's also got a 30-40 pt chance just like Cozens. Expand Agree with your production ranges, but Cozens has more tools than Krebs and the potential to impact the game in a much wider range of areas. He is a better prospect. 2
Doohickie Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 11:34 PM, kas23 said: Darcy would’ve consummated this trade already and for a high return. Expand ...but only after the market for crippled generational talents is set.
SwampD Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 5:03 PM, PASabreFan said: This thread. Expand How do we get SDS to pin this to the top of every page, as well? 2 1
Doohickie Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) On 10/27/2021 at 12:50 AM, aristocrat said: Lol wut Expand I agree. Dylan's ceiling is there but I haven't seen him play anywhere near that level in the NHL. Kid's treading water, trying not to drown. It'd be much better for his development if he could hide on a legit third line, kind of like what Ruotsalainen is getting (10-12 minutes per game). But the depth chart being what is, he's gotta play with the big boys. Edited October 27, 2021 by The Ghost of Yuri
K-9 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:46 AM, bunomatic said: Darcy was as slow as a sloth but you may be right. This is glacial slow and maybe a sloth would seem fast in comparison. Expand It’s like when the snail climbs on the turtle’s back and yells, “Weeeeee!” 1
Doohickie Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:51 AM, K-9 said: You will be glad to eat those words about Cozens in the very near future. Expand Absolutely, but I haven't seen it yet.
Pimlach Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 7:51 PM, mjd1001 said: No, he gets the surgery with the shorter recovery time, and ends up playing a few games late this season to show he is healthy. Expand That is a scenario that others have exposed. It would be very weird for Granato and his team. The locker room is an interesting place. The hope is that by the end of the season the team will be tighter than it is now. Having Jack come back and take a spot just to audition for other teams would be strange for our real players. It happens, but not like this, not for an injured player of this magnitude. The circumstances surrounding this I don’t think I’ve ever seen. 1
Pimlach Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 12:34 AM, The Jokeman said: To get Krebs you'd probably have to throw in Mitts who personally not willing to let go after the way he finished last season. As I'm not sold on Cozens as a top 6 guy. Expand What? I’m glad your not KA. 3
Huckleberry Posted October 27, 2021 Report Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 1:15 AM, The Ghost of Yuri said: I agree. Dylan's ceiling is there but I haven't seen him play anywhere near that level in the NHL. Kid's treading water, trying not to drown. It'd be much better for his development if he could hide on a legit third line, kind of like what Ruotsalainen is getting (10-12 minutes per game). But the depth chart being what is, he's gotta play with the big boys. Expand Or just be in the AHL for a season. 1
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