Brawndo Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, Hoss said: Emily Kaplan said on ESPN’s new show The Point that an Eichel deal was nearly complete last Thursday but it fell through. She says there are five teams heavily involved. Here’s the Segment Hoss was referring to.
dudacek Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Here’s the Segment Hoss was referring to. Not overly familiar with Emily or ESPN up here. Credibility level?
Brawndo Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, dudacek said: Not overly familiar with Emily or ESPN up here. Credibility level? Emily Kaplan is the Between the Glass Reporter for their National Broadcasts and when ESPN won the rights, She was mentioned as Their NHL Insider in same way Adam Schefter is with the NFL for ESPN( Think Friedman and Dreger) There was speculation that Frank Servalli was originally leaving TSN for the same position. 2
Brawndo Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 She has broken anything major yet, but would be in the position to know
Thorner Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 I knew there'd be a push right before the season started..too bad it apparently fell through
French Collection Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, dudacek said: Not overly familiar with Emily or ESPN up here. Credibility level? I have seen her on Sportsnet before, hockey insider on Tim and Friends. 1
Digger Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 49 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Here’s the Segment Hoss was referring to. I appreciate you posting this clip. I had not heard it. I would think though if 5 teams are heavily involved some sort of rumors with names would be leaked (not by the Sabres but by other teams). The insiders have had very little content on Eichel trade talks all the way through this drama.
dudacek Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 Did Kevyn finally get grumpy Bob Murray back to the table only to push one his buttons? 1
Hoss Posted October 14, 2021 Report Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Brawndo said: She has broken anything major yet, but would be in the position to know I believe she has been first on a few big Blackhawks stories. She’s got familiarity there but had grown from there.
SabresVet Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Brawndo said: Emily Kaplan is the Between the Glass Reporter for their National Broadcasts and when ESPN won the rights, She was mentioned as Their NHL Insider in same way Adam Schefter is with the NFL for ESPN( Think Friedman and Dreger) There was speculation that Frank Servalli was originally leaving TSN for the same position. Hopefully she isn't running stories past NFL executives before reporting them a la Schefter. Happens in broadcast news as well. Not assessing her talent or contacts, but "insiders" are carrying the water of their sources more frequently than we'd want.
PromoTheRobot Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, SabresVet said: Hopefully she isn't running stories past NFL executives before reporting them a la Schefter. No. She runs them by Pat Brisson.
SabresVet Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: No. She runs them by Pat Brisson. It's all a catch-22. Gotta have sources to be an "insider." But those sources will need something in return, like helping to craft a narrative. Insiders really aren't journalists anyway. 1
kas23 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, Hoss said: Emily Kaplan said on ESPN’s new show The Point that an Eichel deal was nearly complete last Thursday but it fell through. She says there are five teams heavily involved. If this was actually a leak by Brisson to keep his client in the public eye, he’s failed. It’s not his decision to make, but for a supposed “NHL insider”, it’s his job to seal the deal. Looks bad on him this wasn’t completed.
Richard Noggin Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, SabresVet said: Hopefully she isn't running stories past NFL executives before reporting them a la Schefter. Happens in broadcast news as well. Not assessing her talent or contacts, but "insiders" are carrying the water of their sources more frequently than we'd want. That's how they attain and then maintain those sources. It's certainly questionable journalism, but these "insiders" do the same thing with player agents...so it's not difficult to ascertain each report's "slant" based on who is portrayed favorably (player vs. team/league).
Hoss Posted October 15, 2021 Report Posted October 15, 2021 2 hours ago, SabresVet said: Hopefully she isn't running stories past NFL executives before reporting them a la Schefter. Happens in broadcast news as well. Not assessing her talent or contacts, but "insiders" are carrying the water of their sources more frequently than we'd want. This is 100% the case. It's a regular practice. I don't think there's much wrong with running stories by a source to ensure what you're saying is accurate but the tone of what Schefter did/said is a much different situation. That felt so skeevy.
Doohicksie Posted October 16, 2021 Report Posted October 16, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 3:47 PM, Digger said: I would think though if 5 teams are heavily involved some sort of rumors with names would be leaked (not by the Sabres but by other teams). If that kind of information was leaked, a trade would be irreversibly imminent. If a team is not yet ready to pull the trigger they aren't going to name names. Think what it would do the the psyche of the players mentioned. 1
Hoss Posted October 16, 2021 Report Posted October 16, 2021 53 minutes ago, Doohickie said: If that kind of information was leaked, a trade would be irreversibly imminent. If a team is not yet ready to pull the trigger they aren't going to name names. Think what it would do the the psyche of the players mentioned. This is precisely correct. We’ve seen some names leak of players teams DON’T want to include and that’s likely just names the Sabres have asked for … but this isn’t fantasy sports. Guys aren’t just texting each other offers back and forth. Actual named offers are very rare in these negotiations.
Digger Posted October 16, 2021 Report Posted October 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Doohickie said: If that kind of information was leaked, a trade would be irreversibly imminent. If a team is not yet ready to pull the trigger they aren't going to name names. Think what it would do the the psyche of the players mentioned. Good point but she was reporting that the trade was imminent on the Thursday and then died down on the Friday. Names are leaked all the time with other NHL teams. I love that the Sabres have kept things quiet and internal. It shows that Adams has a good team that he can trust. Other teams though? My point was that if something was that close the insiders might have had more than just that (which is no news other than just mentioning Eichel in the headline).
Brawndo Posted October 17, 2021 Report Posted October 17, 2021 Friedman on HNIC Teams are asking the Sabres to retain on Eichel’s Deal and they are refusing. The Sabres are willing to take contracts back, but not retain
triumph_communes Posted October 17, 2021 Report Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, Brawndo said: Friedman on HNIC Teams are asking the Sabres to retain on Eichel’s Deal and they are refusing. The Sabres are willing to take contracts back, but not retain Fully support the Sabres here. 1
Brawndo Posted October 17, 2021 Report Posted October 17, 2021 Vegas is still unwilling to add Krebs to the return for the Sabres 1
Digger Posted October 17, 2021 Report Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Brawndo said: Vegas is still unwilling to add Krebs to the return for the Sabres That's disappointing. I would love to have him on the Sabres. But Vegas has quite a few injuries right now with Pacioretty, Stone, and Tuch and others. Trading for an injured Eichel would hurt if they need to take anyone off the roster. I know Krebs went down to the AHL for a game but he's back up now.
Flashsabre Posted October 17, 2021 Report Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brawndo said: Hague, Sabres want all the 6’6 LHD. I like Krebs, I want him for sure but he is not a player you refuse to give up in an Eichel deal.
Brawndo Posted October 17, 2021 Report Posted October 17, 2021 Here is the segment, Eichel Stuff starts at 1:30 1
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