Huckleberry Posted August 19, 2021 Report Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 11:06 PM, Digger said: My comment was more about the state of the team rather than living there. I don't know exactly where Columbus is going next season. They need to try and resurrect Laine and I'm not sure Eichel would match well with him but you never know. Better question was do they have a decent package to put forward for Eichel and I'm not sure that many were convinced they could (so not important to debate). Expand They don't have much we want, kent johnson is probably their best prospect right now.
Hoss Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 11:06 PM, Digger said: My comment was more about the state of the team rather than living there. I don't know exactly where Columbus is going next season. They need to try and resurrect Laine and I'm not sure Eichel would match well with him but you never know. Better question was do they have a decent package to put forward for Eichel and I'm not sure that many were convinced they could (so not important to debate). Expand The state of the team is not very good. They were terrible last year and have a strained relationship with one of their best players who they JUST acquired (Laine) and got rid of one of their other top players (Jones).
Cityo'Rasmii Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 12:09 AM, Hoss said: The state of the team is not very good. They were terrible last year and have a strained relationship with one of their best players who they JUST acquired (Laine) and got rid of one of their other top players (Jones). Expand Strong between the pipes and a new coach
Popular Post dudacek Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Report Posted August 20, 2021 Is anyone else of the opinion that the Rangers first made overtures to Adams last year because 'someone' suggested they should? Is anyone else of the opinion that a lot of people (and one hockey player in particular) want to see Jack Eichel in New York and a lot of pressure is being exerted on and influence exercised by a lot of parties in order to try and make that happen? Is anyone else of the opinion that these god-awful offers we have been hearing from New York are the result of a team that arrogantly thinks that Jack is theirs as long as they wait long enough and squeeze hard enough? I hate the fact that Eichel's agent is also Chris Drury's agent. And I wish to god that Calgary or Anaheim or Vegas or Minny could or would step up and ignore all of this insidious effort to paint Jack Eichel as broken, high risk, and not really interested in them and make the Sabres a serious offer. Because I believe that this has become simply a staring contest between the Rangers and Adams that won't end until one blinks. 10
thewookie1 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 12:34 AM, dudacek said: Is anyone else of the opinion that the Rangers first made overtures to Adams last year because 'someone' suggested they should? Is anyone else of the opinion that a lot of people (and one hockey player in particular) want to see Jack Eichel in New York and a lot of pressure is being exerted on and influence exercised by a lot of parties in order to try and make that happen? Is anyone else of the opinion that these god-awful offers we have been hearing from New York are the result of a team that arrogantly thinks that Jack is theirs as long as they wait long enough and squeeze hard enough? I hate the fact that Eichel's agent is also Chris Drury's agent. And I wish to god that Calgary or Anaheim or Vegas or Minny could or would step up and ignore all of this insidious effort to paint Jack Eichel as broken, high risk, and not really interested in them and make the Sabres a serious offer. Because I believe that this has become simply a staring contest between the Rangers and Adams that won't end until one blinks. Expand Certainly seems that way, I would pay to see the Pegulas find dirt on something and sue the Rangers to kingdom come over this entire fiasco. If I were Adams I just tell Drury to #### off like he did in 07 and find another grinder to fight Wilson
sabremike Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 9:40 PM, mjd1001 said: That wouldn't be all that bad, I'm not sure why Columbus gets such a bad reputation. Have they won anything big? No, But they have made the playoffs 5 of the last 8 seasons which is a LOT better than the Sabres. The Arena isn't brand new anymore, but its pretty nice ( I have been there twice). And the location "the Arena district" is great also (filled with bars and restaurants) A few blocks away is High street, which is like Chippewa at its best times 3. Its a growing city that is at least double the size of Buffalo. Honestly, as a younger player it is far from the last place you would want to play your career in. Expand I have been to tons of arenas and Nationwide is by far the nicest I've ever been to. On 8/20/2021 at 12:34 AM, dudacek said: Is anyone else of the opinion that the Rangers first made overtures to Adams last year because 'someone' suggested they should? Is anyone else of the opinion that a lot of people (and one hockey player in particular) want to see Jack Eichel in New York and a lot of pressure is being exerted on and influence exercised by a lot of parties in order to try and make that happen? Is anyone else of the opinion that these god-awful offers we have been hearing from New York are the result of a team that arrogantly thinks that Jack is theirs as long as they wait long enough and squeeze hard enough? I hate the fact that Eichel's agent is also Chris Drury's agent. And I wish to god that Calgary or Anaheim or Vegas or Minny could or would step up and ignore all of this insidious effort to paint Jack Eichel as broken, high risk, and not really interested in them and make the Sabres a serious offer. Because I believe that this has become simply a staring contest between the Rangers and Adams that won't end until one blinks. Expand I say we call OJ and let him take care of things. 1 1
Believer Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 6:35 PM, thewookie1 said: What is that emojii to begin with? Expand Looks like a pouty teenager to me…
Andrew Amerk Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 1:31 AM, sabremike said: I have been to tons of arenas and Nationwide is by far the nicest I've ever been to. I say we call OJ and let him take care of things. Expand Too soon. 1
Doohickie Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 2:00 AM, Believer said: Looks like a pouty teenager to me… Expand Looks like the butthurt trademenow to me. 2
klos1963 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 GMKA probably just had a meeting with his agents and told him to get ready for LTIR, that no team is meeting his price.
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 2:21 PM, klos1963 said: GMKA probably just had a meeting with his agents and told him to get ready for LTIR, that no team is meeting his price. Expand Even after all that pressure and embarrassment that, by total coincidence, hit the Sabres and KA all at once. This team can't even cave properly.
SDS Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 12:34 AM, dudacek said: Is anyone else of the opinion that the Rangers first made overtures to Adams last year because 'someone' suggested they should? Is anyone else of the opinion that a lot of people (and one hockey player in particular) want to see Jack Eichel in New York and a lot of pressure is being exerted on and influence exercised by a lot of parties in order to try and make that happen? Is anyone else of the opinion that these god-awful offers we have been hearing from New York are the result of a team that arrogantly thinks that Jack is theirs as long as they wait long enough and squeeze hard enough? I hate the fact that Eichel's agent is also Chris Drury's agent. And I wish to god that Calgary or Anaheim or Vegas or Minny could or would step up and ignore all of this insidious effort to paint Jack Eichel as broken, high risk, and not really interested in them and make the Sabres a serious offer. Because I believe that this has become simply a staring contest between the Rangers and Adams that won't end until one blinks. Expand If you’re suggesting that Gary Bettman or someone speaking for him, is trying to do this behind the scenes, then no I am not of this opinion.
Doohickie Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 2:33 PM, PromoTheRobot said: Even after all that pressure and embarrassment that, by total coincidence, hit the Sabres and KA all at once. This team can't even cave properly. Expand I don't understand this statement. This is not caving, it's holding firm. 3
Broken Ankles Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 1:31 AM, sabremike said: On 8/20/2021 at 1:31 AM, sabremike said: I say we call OJ and let him take care of things. Expand Not sure OJ will be much help. He’s been looking for Nicole’s killer for over 25 years with no success. Starting to think it’s futile. 1
dudacek Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 3:02 PM, SDS said: If you’re suggesting that Gary Bettman or someone speaking for him, is trying to do this behind the scenes, then no I am not of this opinion. Expand I'm suggesting that Jack's team is doing what it can to get Jack to New York. 1
erickompositör72 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) On 8/20/2021 at 3:02 PM, SDS said: If you’re suggesting that Gary Bettman or someone speaking for him, is trying to do this behind the scenes, then no I am not of this opinion. Expand I know someone who has a senior position in an NHL FO (none of the teams involved in Jack), and told me that Mr. Bettman and his cronies will definitely be involved in a case of someone of Jack's stature, especially if there is a question of how soon he returns to the ice. Bettman & Co. have a vested interested in Jack being happy and on the ice ASAP Edited August 20, 2021 by erickompositör72
SDS Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 3:58 PM, erickompositör72 said: I know someone who has a senior position in an NHL FO (none of the teams involved in Jack), and told me that Mr. Bettman and his cronies will definitely be involved in a case of someone of Jack's stature, especially if there is a question of how soon he returns to the ice. Bettman & Co. have a vested interested in Jack being happy and on the ice ASAP Expand That is significantly different than directing which franchise he will get traded to.
erickompositör72 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 4:00 PM, SDS said: That is significantly different than directing which franchise he will get traded to. Expand I would not say it excludes it, but I get your point.
Popular Post Jävə Keith Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 6:30 PM, Brawndo said: Expand Spoiled entitled brat showing his immaturity and why he is a self-centered anti-leadership captain. Each passing day I get more disgusted that he is on our team and our captain. We get it, everyone is frustrated, but public displays in emoji format are juvenile at best and destructive at worst. Let's get this trade over and done. We have a positive future to execute sans Jack-Jack. 8 1 1 1
pi2000 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 (edited) On 8/20/2021 at 3:44 PM, dudacek said: I'm suggesting that Jack's team is doing what it can to get Jack to New York. Expand That's not how it works. They have absolutely no control over where he's traded to... and KA is standing firm as he should. He's in full control of when and where he gets moved, there is no pressure on him whatsoever. Edited August 20, 2021 by pi2000 2
PromoTheRobot Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 3:11 PM, Doohickie said: I don't understand this statement. This is not caving, it's holding firm. Expand It's was a poor attempt at humor. Of course I applaud Kev for holding firm. He's holding up against attacks from all sides. 2
Doohickie Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 5:39 PM, PromoTheRobot said: It's was a poor attempt at humor. Of course I applaud Kev for holding firm. He's holding up against attacks from all sides. Expand Sorry, didn't get the sarcasm.
dudacek Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 5:17 PM, pi2000 said: That's not how it works. They have absolutely no control over where he's traded to... and KA is standing firm as he should. He's in full control of when and where he gets moved, there is no pressure on him whatsoever. Expand ‘Hey Treliving, Jack has no interest in playing in Calgary. He might not report.” ”Hey Guerin, if you trade for Jack, I’m going to see you get squeezed so hard on the Kaprizov contract. ”Hey Murray, Jack’s not budging on the surgery thing. It’ll be next year before he laces them up. He may never be the same.” ”Hey McCrimmon, you didn’t hear it from me, but Jack ain’t the kinda guy you want in Sin City. You thinkKane has issues...” “Hey Drury, the fact if the matter is that Jack doesn’t need surgery.” Not saying any of things are actually happening, just illustrating the types of levers an agent has in order to get what he wants. 2
mjd1001 Posted August 20, 2021 Report Posted August 20, 2021 On 8/20/2021 at 6:06 PM, dudacek said: ‘Hey Treliving, Jack has no interest in playing in Calgary. He might not report.” ”Hey Guerin, if you trade for Jack, I’m going to see you get squeezed so hard on the Kaprizov contract. ”Hey Murray, Jack’s not budging on the surgery thing. It’ll be next year before he laces them up. He may never be the same.” ”Hey McCrimmon, you didn’t hear it from me, but Jack ain’t the kinda guy you want in Sin City. You thinkKane has issues...” “Hey Drury, the fact if the matter is that Jack doesn’t need surgery.” Not saying any of things are actually happening, just illustrating the types of levers an agent has in order to get what he wants. Expand And if that were happening, and the only offer you get is from the Rangers and it is a bad as the rumor say, they you don't trade him. You sit him for a year. If Jack and his agent WERE making things this difficult, then YOU make things difficult for him. Him missing a year (or more) of his career, losing that money in the prime of is career.....well if that happens he just might be open to a trade to someplace else other than the Rangers. Either that or the Rangers will learn they would have to up their offer. 5
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