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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:14 PM, PromoTheRobot said:

So much for HiPAA. So who set that up?

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Well, if this guy has seen the records and spoke to the media... Jack and his agent so the Dr. doesn't violate hipaa

  On 7/31/2021 at 2:16 PM, LabattBlue said:

Assumed that Jack gave the Dr the okay to go on the podcast and discuss his situation and options. 

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yup. only way this dr. would do it. 

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:16 PM, LabattBlue said:

Assumed that Jack gave the Dr the okay to go on the podcast and discuss his situation and options. 

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 KA will have to respond to this, I imagine. It's been his strongest tool, talking right to the public and answering questions. He is good at it and this calls for a statement at least

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:08 PM, Derrico said:

Could the alternative not be to take back bad contracts for a shorter length of time?  Hard to believe a team would demand retention in Jack salary and not consider other high priced roster players instead to make the cap work.

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KA is doing it right. He set his price and he’s sticking to it. It’s not about the money as some keep saying. They will need to spend $8-10M just to get to floor so it’s going to get spent but they want to spend it on useful players.

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:20 PM, tom webster said:

KA is doing it right. He set his price and he’s sticking to it. It’s not about the money as some keep saying. They will need to spend $8-10M just to get to floor so it’s going to get spent but they want to spend it on useful players.

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KA is doing the right thing, no doubt.

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Posted
  On 7/31/2021 at 2:00 PM, LGR4GM said:

They should send him to Europe tomorrow to go to the best artificial disc doctor there. 

Give him the surgery and tell him if it is a problem his contract is void. 

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He could get the top doctors from Germany and Spain and have a conference. 

https://www.dr-bertagnoli.com

https://www.sana.de/koeln/medizin-pflege/chirurgische-und-konservative-wirbelsaeulenchirurgie/internationale-patienten-adr-germany
 

https://www.institutoclavel.com/en/treatments/adr
 

There are plenty more.

The cp-esp is highly regarded artificial disk and the usual choice in Europe, but it’s not even available in the United States.

https://onzspine.com/artificial-disc-replacement/

maybe there’s a reason for him going to Colorado, but anything that can be done here can be done over there with more experienced surgeons with a wider array of tools.

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Posted
  On 7/31/2021 at 2:23 PM, LGR4GM said:

How strange would it be if KA managed to execute this trade correctly and competently. 

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If you were another team, would you trade for Eichel now? I think his value is pretty low now with injury  and this show of impertinence just made him even less valuable to a team.

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:25 PM, bob_sauve28 said:

If you were another team, would you trade for Eichel now? I think his value is pretty low now with injury  and this show of impertinence just made him even less valuable to a team.

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I wouldn't have traded for a healthy Eichel unless I were Vegas. Minnesota I think is screwed with the buyouts. Montreal has young center talent and overachieved. Rangers could use him, might have traded for him if I were them. Anaheim needs to fully rebuild so I wouldn't have traded the assets. 

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:25 PM, bob_sauve28 said:

If you were another team, would you trade for Eichel now? I think his value is pretty low now with injury  and this show of impertinence just made him even less valuable to a team.

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only if the price was right, and i'm (pretend GM) not shipping out my 1C (prospect or otherwise) or a 2021 1st for him.  i can appreciate what GyMKAta (what i speak out loud in my head whenever i see "GMKA") is doing, but the longer this goes on, the less best it's doing the sabres.  and he wants what's best for the sabres, so...

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:25 PM, bob_sauve28 said:

If you were another team, would you trade for Eichel now? I think his value is pretty low now with injury  and this show of impertinence just made him even less valuable to a team.

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If I were another team I would have little to no interest just because of the injury. 

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:32 PM, Kr632 said:

If I were another team I would have little to no interest just because of the injury. 

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The injury sure but the attitude is concerning. I’m thinking Jack held his breath a lot as a kid. And likely got what he wanted every single time.

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:32 PM, Kr632 said:

If I were another team I would have little to no interest just because of the injury. 

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I will not be surprised if he sits out the season, or something like that.

Wait until he is 100% healthy and then see who wants him next year. I know that's crazy but it might be best option

 

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“We have found that this surgical treatment is effective in significantly reducing pain in 90% of cases, resulting in a direct increase in your quality of life. In addition, approximately 70% of patients have been able to make a complete return to playing sports, a rate unheard of for other spinal surgeries.”

https://www.institutoclavel.com/en/treatments/adr

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:35 PM, bunomatic said:

The injury sure but the attitude is concerning. I’m thinking Jack held his breath a lot as a kid. And likely got what he wanted every single time.

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In fairness to Jack, he has to accept $10 million dollars and is forced to play hockey for a living. Oppression!

  On 7/31/2021 at 2:37 PM, SDS said:

“We have found that this surgical treatment is effective in significantly reducing pain in 90% of cases, resulting in a direct increase in your quality of life. In addition, approximately 70% of patients have been able to make a complete return to playing sports, a rate unheard of for other spinal surgeries.”

https://www.institutoclavel.com/en/treatments/adr

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So a team trading for him would have a 30% chance of Jack not being what he was. That's got to scare away a lot of GMs

Posted
  On 7/31/2021 at 2:36 PM, bob_sauve28 said:

I will not be surprised if he sits out the season, or something like that.

Wait until he is 100% healthy and then see who wants him next year. I know that's crazy but it might be best option

 

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Next season will be hard to stomach as it is but to add that drama hanging over this team ? We need to move on.

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:32 PM, Kr632 said:

If I were another team I would have little to no interest just because of the injury. 

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Just a week ago his agent said he was fine. Today his head is ready to fall off without surgery. Which is the lie?

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:38 PM, bob_sauve28 said:

In fairness to Jack, he has to accept $10 million dollars and is forced to play hockey for a living. Oppression!

So a team trading for him would have a 30% chance of Jack not being what he was. That's got to scare away a lot of GMs

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It’s just a quote on this doctors website, so without the supporting detail take it with a grain of salt. However, I think it’s safe to assume that this refers to casual people and not professional players. I would have to think the risk is higher for the latter.

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  On 7/31/2021 at 2:37 PM, SDS said:

“We have found that this surgical treatment is effective in significantly reducing pain in 90% of cases, resulting in a direct increase in your quality of life. In addition, approximately 70% of patients have been able to make a complete return to playing sports, a rate unheard of for other spinal surgeries.”

https://www.institutoclavel.com/en/treatments/adr

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Define sports. No check beer league or the NHL? That still leaves a 30% chance he ends his career.

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Posted
  On 7/31/2021 at 2:00 PM, LGR4GM said:

They should send him to Europe tomorrow to go to the best artificial disc doctor there. 

Give him the surgery and tell him if it is a problem his contract is void. 

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This might be in the worst possible interests for the team.  The team needs to protect that asset absolutely.

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