darksabre Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:38 PM, LGR4GM said: What about Quinn, Peterka, olofsson, 2022 first Expand I wouldn't be happy with that for Eichel 1 1
WildCard Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:39 PM, darksabre said: I wouldn't be happy with that for Eichel Expand Same. That's 3 big question marks and Olofsson. We need a very sure thing in a prospect coming back.
LGR4GM Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:39 PM, Hoss said: I’d do that but I’d demand a postcard from Peterka every year because he has somehow become a favorite of mine so quickly. Expand On 7/26/2021 at 7:39 PM, darksabre said: I wouldn't be happy with that for Eichel Expand So we're in the ballpark. What if I added Samuelsson? Quinn, JJ, Samuelsson, olofsson, lottery protected 2022 first. 1
Buffalonill Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:38 PM, LGR4GM said: What about Quinn, Peterka, olofsson, 2022 first Expand That seems so little for a jack eichel Hell I would trade that in a second for him
Hoss Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:39 PM, darksabre said: I wouldn't be happy with that for Eichel Expand That deal, to me, is similar to a Turcotte, Kuperi, Adrian Kempe and 2022 first deal. 1
Buffalonill Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:36 PM, Thorny said: Did you say...Auston Matthews? No. Shea Weber. Perennial all star going to the hall of fame, first ballot baby! Expand Yeah if that's All it takes for Jack eichel We can easily do a trade for him then
WildCard Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:40 PM, LGR4GM said: So we're in the ballpark. What if I added Samuelsson? Quinn, JJ, Samuelsson, olofsson, lottery protected 2022 first. Expand Still too many question marks. I need Cozens as the main piece.
Curt Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) On 7/26/2021 at 6:45 PM, Buffalonill said: got super excited when I saw this but it's fake ... If we got something like this winning all day Expand What is wrong with you! Edited July 26, 2021 by Curt
darksabre Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:40 PM, LGR4GM said: So we're in the ballpark. What if I added Samuelsson? Quinn, JJ, Samuelsson, olofsson, lottery protected 2022 first. Expand Yeah I think that or another first or some kind of cap dump situation gets it done for me.
Hoss Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 I think the board’s angst over the Quinn pick has him being undervalued here. I also think we’re undervaluing our own unprotected 2022 first.
LGR4GM Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:43 PM, WildCard said: Still too many question marks. I need Cozens as the main piece. Expand On 7/26/2021 at 7:43 PM, darksabre said: Yeah I think that or another first or some kind of cap dump situation gets it done for me. Expand How about this... Cozens, olofsson, Quinn, 2022 first, Okposo ? On 7/26/2021 at 7:45 PM, Hoss said: I think the board’s angst over the Quinn pick has him being undervalued here. I also think we’re undervaluing our own unprotected 2022 first. Expand He's very undervalued here. 1
WildCard Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 Liger's post has the pick as protected. I don't think anyone is doubting how high our unprotected first can be.
LGR4GM Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Posted July 26, 2021 I figured in this world we make the playoffs in 2022
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:43 PM, Curt said: What is wrong with you! Expand What is wrong with you!! Why are you quoting that nonsense?? 😉
WildCard Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:45 PM, LGR4GM said: How about this... Cozens, olofsson, Quinn, 2022 first, Okposo ? He's very undervalued here. Expand In a heartbeat. You can throw Skinner over Okposo and I still take that deal. 1
LGR4GM Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:46 PM, WildCard said: Liger's post has the pick as protected. I don't think anyone is doubting how high our unprotected first can be. Expand Def protected but pretend it's pick 24 1
darksabre Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:45 PM, LGR4GM said: How about this... Cozens, olofsson, Quinn, 2022 first, Okposo ? He's very undervalued here. Expand I'm probably undervaluing Quinn a bit, but that's mostly because I didn't pay much attention to the 2020 draft and he's only played a handful of games on the Amerks so far. He's just not really on my radar yet.
DarthEbriate Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:25 PM, Hoss said: We could do a little experiment and simply ask what people are willing to give up for an Eichel caliber player Expand Is this with Minnesota? Okposo for the cap (plus hometown warm fuzzies); then the actual 4 pieces: Mitts for the plug-and-play center to replace his minutes (and hometown warm fuzzies); Quinn for the future; Johnson for the sweetener (plus college warm fuzzies); 2022 lottery-protected 1st (becomes 2023 if we win the lottery); plus a 2023 3rd because I'm feeling generous. In exchange, Eichel & a 2023 2nd. And yes, Darths always talk about warm fuzzies.
LGR4GM Posted July 26, 2021 Author Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:52 PM, DarthEbriate said: Is this with Minnesota? Okposo for the cap (plus hometown warm fuzzies); then the actual 4 pieces: Mitts for the plug-and-play center to replace his minutes (and hometown warm fuzzies); Quinn for the future; Johnson for the sweetener (plus college warm fuzzies); 2022 lottery-protected 1st (becomes 2023 if we win the lottery); plus a 2023 3rd because I'm feeling generous. In exchange, Eichel & a 2023 2nd. And yes, Darths always talk about warm fuzzies. Expand Not enough
Thorner Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:45 PM, Hoss said: I think the board’s angst over the Quinn pick has him being undervalued here. I also think we’re undervaluing our own unprotected 2022 first. Expand Not that I'm undervaluing him, but he can't be the biggest piece in an Eichel deal because he's not a C. I don't think we can/should trade Jack for a package not including that piece 2
Derrico Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:59 PM, Thorny said: Not that I'm undervaluing him, but he can't be the biggest piece in an Eichel deal because he's not a C. I don't think we can/should trade Jack for a package not including that piece Expand Agreed. All we essentially have down the middle is Cozens and mitts. We need another high end C prospect if we’re trading Jack. 1
Hoss Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 7:59 PM, Thorny said: Not that I'm undervaluing him, but he can't be the biggest piece in an Eichel deal because he's not a C. I don't think we can/should trade Jack for a package not including that piece Expand You’re also not getting Jack with a protected first. If we get one that has protections I’ll be pretty pissed. If we get one that has protections in each of the next two seasons I quit. 1 1
WildCard Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 8:07 PM, Hoss said: You’re also not getting Jack with a protected first. If we get one that has protections I’ll be pretty pissed. If we get one that has protections in each of the next two seasons I quit. Expand It really depends on the team giving up that pick. In this hypothetical scenario, the Sabres giving up their pick, unprotected, for an Eichel level player is insanity. The Wild on the other hand, is a much safer bet.
PromoTheRobot Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 5:10 PM, Doohickie said: We had some very good teams when OSP owned the franchise. Expand Why do much Darcy hate tho?
Thorner Posted July 26, 2021 Report Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 8:07 PM, Hoss said: You’re also not getting Jack with a protected first. If we get one that has protections I’ll be pretty pissed. If we get one that has protections in each of the next two seasons I quit. Expand I agree on the pick but I could live with whatever if we are getting that "A" centre prospect back. It's really gotta happen. To me that represents the mendoza line for how ardently I'll be consuming the games live next season: pending other unlikely looking offseason developments, if we don't get a *single* top-level C prospect from the entirety of this selloff, the most in talent I've ever seen, they imo are assuredly targeting it at the very tip-tip of next year's draft
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